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    Bravo to Keith Olbermann for having the the intestinal for ude to tell the truth about the Ohio Presidential vote fraud that has been largely ignored by the corporate-owned mass media. Bravo to MSNBC for letting Olbermann expose the fraud.

    Countdown to Voting Irregularties

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    Thanks for the link, Nbadan.

    Call me crazy, but it's at least an interesting watch.


    P.S.

    Too bad Olbermann didn't stick to sports.

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    That was actually pretty interesting and informative.

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    Yes, thanks for posting. The very interesting part to me was that the hand-counted counties in Florida did not at all reflect the party affiliation of the registered voters. But the counties that weren't hand-counted, all did. Interesting.

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    Y'all need to read, "If you give a moose a muffin."

    Don't encourage the crazies folks...

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    Kori, it was saying those counted by the optical counters didnt reflect the registered voters, not the hand counted ones.

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Thanks everyone. Here is some support information to help prove Olbermann's case. Some counties in Ohio had turnouts of 1160%.

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    If nothing else, this has me looking forward to Dave Barry's next column.

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    No, you know what's interesting?

    Looking at all those counties mentioned?

    Bush won every one of them in 2000 including Warren. The ones in Florida even after the recount.

    2000 Results for Warren: Bush 69%

    2004 Results for Warren: Bush 72%


    2000 Florida Baker, Holmes, Dixie, LaFayette, Liberty, Paper Ballot Recounted Votes

    Notice how MSNBC forgot to mention that?

    Notice how they failed to mention what kind of turnout there was in those counties?

    It seems to me that if the Bush camp was going to rig votes they wouldn't do it in counties they had previously won by large margins.




    Oh and MSNBC is more left wing trash than CNN. Ever go to their front page? Someone tell me the last time they have any type of positive article about Bush, the war in Iraq, anything.


    What the Democrats need to be asking themselves is why the Kerry camp themselves illegally leaked information and tried to pass it off as exit poll data...that is fraud.

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    whottt I have to ask, what is your handle all about?? is it hoot? or is it like lil john WHAT!!! or something else.

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    Some useful charts...













    Here is what they all mean.

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    <<<<Is a registered Democrat.

    Stop assuming that just because some Democrats didn't support a ty candidate that there was voter Fraud.

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    I see Whottt likes to dodge the tough questions rather than face them straight up.

    Tom Cruise: What is your name all about I WANT THE TRUTH!!!

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    What the Democrats need to be asking themselves is why the Kerry camp themselves illegally leaked information and tried to pass it off as exit poll data...that is fraud.
    Warren County did go for Bush in 2000, but it's hard to believe that Reagan-democrats supported W in greater numbers in 2004 than they did in 2000. Also, this doesn't begin to explain why there were more votes than registered voters in 30 Ohio counties.

    What I wanna know is why your so afraid of the truth coming out Whott? Afraid that W will appear more illegitimate than he already does and you'll be proven an ass?

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    Warren County did go for Bush in 2000, but it's hard to believe that Reagan-democrats supported W in greater numbers in 2004 than they did in 2000. Also, this doesn't begin to explain why there were more votes than registered voters in 30 Ohio counties.

    What I wanna know is why your so afraid of the truth coming out Whott? Afraid that W will appear more illegitimate than he already does and you'll be proven an ass?

    No ass, what I am trying to convey to you is that I am ing proof of the change that took place in this country, because of 911, because of the absolutely de able left wing tactics used by Michael Moore and the like, because of heavily biased liberal media that is destroying the integrity of the press.

    I am a guy who hated Bush in 2000, I voted for the Democratic candidate every year since 1992. It's not that surprising what happened in this country.

    What I want to know from you Dan, is why MSNBC(and Olberman, who is the Liberal Version of Bill O'Reilly), failed to mention that those were all counties won by Bush on paper in 2000, even after the recount.......

    Why didn't they mention what PCT of the registered voters in those counties turned out...


    Why didn't they mention those things? Don't you think that has a little bit of relevance when trying to paint these 2004 Results as unusual?

    We've already been burned by one liberal journalist whose career is pretty much over now.

    I watched those ing channels, I saw how liberally biased they were, they didn't even try to hide it...and these are supposed to be neutral journalists.


    You act like the fact that there were more votes than Registered Voters in some of those counties is a Rebuplican tactic...when the Democrats were busted time and time again using that very tactic in this election, as well as buying votes. The Republicans were the ones busted throwing ballots away...there's a difference between the tactics used...and that one is most definitely a Democratic tactic.

    Just tell me why MSNBC didn't mention the 2000 Results...when there were no Diebold Machines, when no one locked up the ballot counting...Same results...it's just cir stantial bull that catches the insecurities of alarmists and it is hurting this ing country.
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    No ass, what I am trying to convey to you is that I am ing proof of the change that took place in this country, because of 911, because of the absolutely de able left wing tactics used by Michael Moore and the like, because of heavily biased liberal media that is destroying the integrity of the press.

    I am a guy who hated Bush in 2000, I voted for the Democratic candidate every year since 1992. It's not that surprising what happened in this country.
    Look asshole, there is a threat in the mass media, but it's not the liberal media that is to blame. People can filter through obvious reporter biases, but FoxNews and TalkRadio go well beyond just innocent biases and slant their infotainment, not news, with obvious right-wing slants that go beyond the level of belief. It's really no surprise that listeners of Talkradio and FoxNews watchers are regularly the most misinformed people out there in polls. It shows in this forum. People say they don't listen to talk radio, but they are so misinformed it is hard to believe otherwise.

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    See sucker? Now whos ducking the issue?

    Why didn't they mention 2000 had similar results in all of those counties?

    Rather than just assuming the worse I went and checked to see if that is really that unusual and guess what I found?

    I found the reason I no longer support the Democratic Party...and it's been happening for a while now.

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    found the reason I no longer support the Democratic Party...and it's been happening for a while now.
    You found diddly. Where did the extra Bush votes come from in Ohio and Florida?

    Nice. Ducking the hard questions again?

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    Look asshole, there is a threat in the mass media, but it's not the liberal media that is to blame. People can filter through obvious reporter biases, but FoxNews and TalkRadio go well beyond just innocent biases and slant their infotainment, not news, with obvious right-wing slants that go beyond the level of belief. It's really no surprise that listeners of Talkradio and FoxNews watchers are regularly the most misinformed people out there in polls. It shows in this forum. People say they don't listen to talk radio, but they are so misinformed it is hard to believe otherwise.

    It's obvious that most of the high profile employees of Fox are Conservatives...

    But the point you are missing out on...is that their news anchors there...their people who are supposed to be unbiased, the Network as a whole.....they do a better job of reporting the news accurately. That said, I still watch CNN more than any of them because of:



    And I think she's a Republican anyway

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    Just tell me why MSNBC didn't mention the 2000 Results...when there were no Diebold Machines, when no one locked up the ballot counting...Same results...it's just cir stantial bull that catches the insecurities of alarmists and it is hurting this ing country.
    [hanging chad]Just cause Diebold machines weren't around doesn't mean that fraud didn't also occur in 2000[/hanging chad]

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    I watch Foxnews just for some of the hot female anchors, but their views piss the out of me, and after watching Outfoxed their trickery is so obvious it's more amusing than anything else now.

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    You found diddly. Where did the extra Bush votes come from in Ohio and Florida?

    Nice. Ducking the hard questions again?
    From the Repuclicans trolling their base better turnout of course and the Democrats doing the same...I mean I am watching liberals all over their country both laud and criticize the way the Bush campaign handled the Gay Marriage initiatives and tapped into to their benefit.

    Do you also believe there are more gay people than straight?

    Now you tell me why you think there would be a different turnout in those counties than 2000? Why?


    Bush is not as hated as you guys think he is...more people like him now, than liked him before...it's just the facts, you guys were beaten, give it up. Kerry has, Clinton has.

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    [hanging chad]Just cause Diebold machines weren't around doesn't mean that fraud didn't also occur in 2000[/hanging chad]
    Sorry but backing up one unproven conspiracy with another unproven conspiracy only weakens your argument.

    Anyone can just make unproven and unfounded accusations of fraud...Republicans can do it as well.


    You can just keep throwing conpiracies on top of conspiracies but you aren't going to be viewed as having credibility until you have some kind of hard evidence to back up your claims...you haven't even gotten a starting point yet.

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    I watch Foxnews just for some of the hot female anchors, but their views piss the out of me, and after watching Outfoxed their trickery is so obvious it's more amusing than anything else now.
    Fox has a greater quan y of babes but Rudi is like the most beautiful woman on the entire planet...she trumps Fox for me. I'll watch her when she is on.

    Besides, she won my heart after calling a gay priest a gay ...I love a woman who runs smack.

    But now you know how I feel about CNN and CNBC...I literally feel like the life has been sucked out of me after watching a couple of hours...

    The Fox guys are obviously conservative but they don't let it get in the way with their jobs...I mean no one ing thinks Sean Hannity is an objective guy...people did think Dan Rather was objective....that's the difference.

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