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    Going to 3rd OT on ESPN2

    MUST SEE TV for basketball fans!

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    Boggan should be available early in the 2nd round.

    And I'm sure the Spurs have their eyes on Marcus Dove, who gave Durant some troubles.

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    Great game. Big plays on both sides.

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    the boyz are dragging their butts. pooped!!

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    Somebody days Durant needs more meat!

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    Man, two weeks ago I was hoping Mario Boggan would be a Spur. Now I ing double ing hope he becomes a Spur. Not sure he drops into the second round, now.

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    Wow, amazing game.

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    Okla. St. won and they have a better ranking than Texas but after watching that game (@ Gallagher Iba Arena), I'm still not sure one team is better than the other.
    It was basically Boggan v. Durant and Augustin down the stretch, and Boggan just squared-up under pressure and nailed that wing 3 just bigger than Dallas.

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    Man, two weeks ago I was hoping Mario Boggan would be a Spur. Now I ing double ing hope he becomes a Spur. Not sure he drops into the second round, now.

    why can't we get him in the first???


    and yeah, this was a great game.....durant is a ing beast..........

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    Man, two weeks ago I was hoping Mario Boggan would be a Spur. Now I ing double ing hope he becomes a Spur. Not sure he drops into the second round, now.
    He's a first rounder.

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    yall know were gonna get some dude from a foreign country again...

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    By the way, on that last possession by Texas after Boggan's 3, it wasn't really a travelling on UT. I watched the last minute again and the kid jumped up and couldn't shoot but he actually dribbled before his feet hit the floor. I guess the ref. didn't see him bounce the ball, or his eyes deceived him. Abrams may have been able to gather himself and try a 3 but it's all history now.

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    It don't matter! Gillespie's boys will rip 'em both up! Gig Em!

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    Durant reminds me of KG.

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    It don't matter! Gillespie's boys will rip 'em both up! Gig Em!
    AM is good, but OSU and UT will beat them this year

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    why can't we get him in the first???
    Oh, we can. My fantasy was getting another first round talent, maybe moving up with Scola, and Boggan would drop into the second round because he's undersized. DX still has him in the second round, but he'll move out of it, although I wouldn't be surprised to see somebody like Glen Davis or him or another good senior wind up in the second round.

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    By the way, on that last possession by Texas after Boggan's 3, it wasn't really a travelling on UT. I watched the last minute again and the kid jumped up and couldn't shoot but he actually dribbled before his feet hit the floor. I guess the ref. didn't see him bounce the ball, or his eyes deceived him.
    That's a travel.

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    Okay, so, you have me curious now. Just so that I know what you mean, are you saying that jumping up before taking a dribble and then dribbling the ball before either foot returns to the floor is a travel...or are you saying that you think one or both of the player's feet actually returned to the floor prior to the dribble hitting the floor?

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    It's a travel if you jump up without a prior dribble, and then dribble before you land.

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    Since you may not see this topic again for a while to explain what you mean, I went to search for the rules aspect of it. Since this is not the NBA, but the NCAA, I looked up the rule on what cons utes a travel or illegal dribble. I stand corrected. The player did establish a pivot foot by catching and then leaving both feet. The rule does clearly state that the pivot cannot be lifted before starting a dribble. Even if a clear pivot foot had not been established, neither foot can be lifted prior to starting a dribble.

    (From NCAA 2006 Basketball Rules)
    Rule 4, Section 66.
    Travel:

    Art. 1. Traveling occurs when a player holding the ball moves a foot or both
    feet in any direction in excess of prescribed limits described in this Rule.
    Art. 2. A player who catches the ball with both feet on the playing court
    may pivot, using either foot. When one foot is lifted, the other is the pivot
    foot.
    Art. 3. A player who catches the ball while moving or dribbling may stop
    and establish a pivot foot as follows:
    a. When both feet are off the playing court and the player lands:
    1. Simultaneously on both feet, either may be the pivot foot;
    2. On one foot followed by the other, the first foot to touch shall be
    the pivot foot;
    3. On one foot, the player may jump off that foot and simultane-
    ously land on both; neither foot can be the pivot foot.
    b. When one foot is on the playing court:
    1. That foot shall be the pivot foot when the other foot touches in a
    step;
    2. The player may jump off that foot and simultaneously land on
    both; neither foot can then be the pivot foot.
    Art. 4. After coming to a stop and establishing the pivot foot:
    a. The pivot foot may be lifted, but not returned to the playing court,
    before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal;
    b. The pivot foot shall not be lifted before the ball is released to start a
    dribble.

    Art. 5. After coming to a stop when neither foot can be the pivot foot:
    a. One or both feet may be lifted, but may not be returned to the play-
    ing court, before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal;
    b. Neither foot shall be lifted, before the ball is released, to start a drib-
    ble.


    I have seen that done several times in the NBA and of course the rules are somewhat different...as well as being relaxed during actual play. For the Spurs, I remember Sean Elliott doing that and the refs allowing the play to continue because Sean was able to dribble first.

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    I didn't see your post earlier, but thanks MI21. I now know the rule.

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    I didn't see your post earlier, but thanks MI21. I now know the rule.
    It's a weird rule, I have seen it go uncalled many a time. I know that where I play, which goes under FIBA rules I believe, you can't do it.

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    Yeah, traveling goes uncalled all the time any way. Let's say on a ball screen, the player takes the ball from a standing position and steps out from the screener and dribbles on his lead step after his rear foot clears the floor. Technically, that's a travel, since the pivot is the foot not raised to take the first step.

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    Solid, FYI, we have a college forum which is s real nice forum for just this sort of discussion.

    This game is well covered in that locale.


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    Yeah, I expected it to get moved after the game was over. I just knew that it was shaping up to be one of the best college games I've seen in a while and some of the Spurs fans who were unaware might want to see it.

    I expected one or more to pile on, though.

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