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    Bush: "I'm the decision-maker" on Iraq

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    -- President Bush, on a collision course with Congress over Iraq, said Friday "I'm the decision-maker" about sending more troops to the war. He challenged skeptical lawmakers not to prematurely condemn his plan.

    "I've picked the plan that I think is most likely to succeed," Bush said in an Oval Office meeting with senior military advisers.

    The president had strong words for lawmakers on both sides of the aisle who are lining up to support resolutions opposing his decision to send 21,500 troops to Iraq. He challenged them to put up their own ideas. "Some are condemning a plan before it's even had a chance to work," he said.

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    Let's give more war a chance people, your not trying.


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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    More on the Blackwater security helicopter that was shot down....

    Inside Baghdad: A city paralysed by fear
    By Patrick burn
    Published: 25 January 2007


    Baghdad is paralysed by fear. Iraqi drivers are terrified of running into impromptu checkpoints where heavily armed men in civilian clothes may drag them out of their cars and kill them for being the wrong religion. Some districts exchange mortar fire every night. This is mayhem beyond the comprehension of George Bush and Tony Blair.

    Black smoke was rising over the city centre yesterday as American and Iraqi army troops tried to fight their way into the insurgent district of Haifa Street only a mile north of the Green Zone, home to the government and the US and British embassies. Helicopters flew fast and low past tower blocks, hunting snipers, and armoured vehicles manoeuvred in the streets below.

    Many Iraqis who watched the State of the Union address shrugged it off as an irrelevance. "An extra 16,000 US soldiers are not going to be enough to restore order to Baghdad," said Ismail, a Sunni who fled his house in the west of the city, fearing he would be arrested and tortured by the much-feared Shia police commandos.

    It is extraordinary that, almost four years after US forces captured Baghdad, they control so little of it. The outlook for Mr Bush's strategy of driving out insurgents from strongholds and preventing them coming back does not look good.

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    On Monday, a helicopter belonging to the US security company Blackwater was shot down as it flew over the Sunni neighbourhood of al-Fadhil, close to the central markets of Baghdad. Several of the five American crew members may have survived the crash but they were later found with gunshot wounds to their heads, as if they had been executed on the ground.
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    Eh, are there any posts about a cons utional crisis forthcoming?

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    Eh, are there any posts about a cons utional crisis forthcoming?
    You know we are always a few days ahead of the news in this forum, wait for beatch!


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    Yeah, but you're apparently a few days ahead of yourself here.

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    Maybe he's referring to the composition of Iraq as a whole. Leave off the "al".

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    Yeah, but you're apparently a few days ahead of yourself here.
    So you still have doubts that 'the surge' is gonna lead to a legislative battle between the WH and Congress?

    I'll give ya 10-1.

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    The Democrats don't feel that strongly about it at this point. Most folks are waiting to see what happens. If it fails and Bushy wants to surge more, there could be trouble. Not until then.

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    I don't know. Some of the 08 hopefuls are drawing lines in the sand now.

    My guess is their thinking is: Why wait for the inevitable?

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    Because they don't want to be on the wrong side if it works.

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    Because they don't want to be on the wrong side if it works.
    DING DING DING DING

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    I don't know why anyone thought Democrats would grow spines just because they won congress by default.

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    Because they don't want to be on the wrong side if it works.
    OK, but there's a deeper issue that could be working to force some hands. If this administration is gonna start fighting Iranians, as it seems they are, then acting now would be the only way to cut the legs from under that plan. They certainly aren't gonna cut funding while the troops are already fighting.

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    Because they don't want to be on the wrong side if it works.
    I think that's the most intelligent thing you've ever posted Chumpy.

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    not really, Chump knows it wont' work.

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    Back to the le of the thread, where's the "cons utional crisis?"

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    If there is enough evidence of US fighting Iranians in Iran, then the Democrats wouldn't and shouldn't have any problem doing something substantial, and there could be your crisis, but this stuff in Iraq hasn't raised to the level yet.

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    not really, Chump knows it wont' work.
    I don't think it will work, but I can't hope against it.

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    not really, Chump knows it wont' work.
    It's already working -- and has been for a couple of weeks. That's why there's such a rush to condemn and get it shut down by Democrats -- they can't afford for it to work.

    Read some Milblogs and Spookblogs -- Those guys know what's happening in Iraq.

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    Back to the le of the thread, where's the "cons utional crisis?"
    Hey numbnuts, even governer Pitaki came out against Dubya's surge. That's how many presidential hopefuls and their alliances?

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    The president had strong words for lawmakers on both sides of the aisle who are lining up to support resolutions opposing his decision to send 21,500 troops to Iraq. He challenged them to put up their own ideas.
    What a dumb . John Murtha has a plan, Joe Biden has a plan, Hillary Clinton has a plan, the bi-partisan Iraq Study Group has a plan...

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    What a dumb . John Murtha has a plan, Joe Biden has a plan, Hillary Clinton has a plan, the bi-partisan Iraq Study Group has a plan...
    Who are half a planet away from where the fighting is.

    How about we go with the plan that the folks who are going to execute it have come up with instead of the misguided musings of a bunch of self serving politicians?

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    Who are half a planet away from where the fighting is.

    How about we go with the plan that the folks who are going to execute it have come up with instead of the misguided musings of a bunch of self serving politicians?



    Well, I have a plan too. , I think everyone has a plan don't they? I'll stick to plans formulated by those actually in the theater and not a bunch of idiots jockeying for political positions.

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    Who are half a planet away from where the fighting is.

    How about we go with the plan that the folks who are going to execute it have come up with instead of the misguided musings of a bunch of self serving politicians?
    Because Bush is "The Decider", not the generals who've seen combat before.

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    "I've picked the plan that I think is most likely to succeed," Bush said in an Oval Office meeting with senior military advisers.
    RIF Bandit.

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