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    RIP whottt. slayermin's Avatar
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    I'm staying in a non-smoking hotel and they have signs everywhere that states they will charge a $250.00 room recovery fee if you smoke in your room. This is the first time I have ever seen a recovery room fee.

    My question is how do they determine if you smoked in your room? Do they ask the maid if she detected a cigarette odor when she cleans the room?

    Just curious.

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    Too weird to live, and too rare to die. midgetonadonkey's Avatar
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    I've smoked in every single non-smoking room I've stayed in. I wouldn't worry about it. Just blaze up and enjoy.

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    Just tell them the hooker you brought to your room was smoking. I don't see how they can charge for that.

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    Just tell them the hooker you brought to your room was smoking. I don't see how they can charge for that.
    Do you mean the massage therapist?

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    I knew someone who got charged $500 for smoking in a non-smoking room (they left behind an ashtray ).

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    PRICELESS SPURS FAN polandprzem's Avatar
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    It is mostly they are asking the maid, but ofcourse sometimes you will check out in time as maid is not that close to your room.

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    Smokers: trust me. If you light up more than one or two it is incredibly obvious to non-smokers that you lit up during your stay. Don't risk it.

    The new "smoke it and pay" policy is something that has just started up fairly recently. I would be really surprised if someone somewhere doesn't start a "smoker's hotel" franchise to capture that segment of the market.

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    I would be really surprised if someone somewhere doesn't start a "smoker's hotel" franchise to capture that segment of the market.
    Until the Democrats have it banned in all places.

    I believe New York they are trying to get it banned on public sidewalks and possibly homes.

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    When my roommate used to smoke pot in the house and didnt want it to smell he used to go into the bathroom, stuff dryer sheets in the crack between the door and floor and turn on the vent. It seemed to work really well, it barely smelled at all after about two hours, just spray a little freshener

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    PRICELESS SPURS FAN polandprzem's Avatar
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    it is good we have a smoking hotel

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    PRICELESS SPURS FAN polandprzem's Avatar
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    well but I am always mad when the smokerd do smoke

    fookers!

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    Non-smoking rooms don't reek of smoke before you take the room, so when the cleaning crew goes in after you check out and smells your polluted room, they tell the front desk who will hit your credit card for the penalty.

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    Some places get sly and put in silent smoke detectors as well. I wouldn't risk the extra bill.

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    PRICELESS SPURS FAN polandprzem's Avatar
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    Non-smoking rooms don't reek of smoke before you take the room, so when the cleaning crew goes in after you check out and smells your polluted room, they tell the front desk who will hit your credit card for the penalty.
    Is that legal?

    If you do not have a signature from the bill from the cards terminal the guest may say it is illegal, and you have no prove that he was smokeing.

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    I bet when you sign in for a non-smoking room, you signing/contracting not to smoke.

    It costs quit a bit of time and effort to deodorize a room.

    Don't be an asshole. Reserve a smoking room and smoke away. If you burn the hotel down, I don't think they can do anything to you.

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    PRICELESS SPURS FAN polandprzem's Avatar
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    I bet when you sign in for a non-smoking room, you signing/contracting not to smoke.

    It costs quit a bit of time and effort to deodorize a room.

    Don't be an asshole. Reserve a smoking room and smoke away. If you burn the hotel down, I don't think they can do anything to you.
    Was it an answer to my question?

    The situation is like that - You go and checking out - front desk is calling the maid - you leave the hotel - maid tells the desk taht the guy was smokeing.
    What the hotel can do?
    If the guy was paying cash for excample?
    Call cops and tell them that someone was smokeing in the hotel? (all in all they have got all the information from the ID)

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    Well, the entire hotel is non-smoking. I couldn't reserve a smoking room becasue they don't have any. They do have a small designated smoking area.

    I didn't plan on smoking except maybe in the bathroom. But after reading the hotel's policy, they sound pretty serious about enforcing the fee.

    Here is an explanation of the policy.

    "This policy will be part of our Quality Assurance process. We are training our associates to respond. For example, housekeepers will be taught to look out for signs of smoking in the hotel. Guests will be reminded at the point of reservations and upon arrival that smoking is not allowed. Pre-arrival email notifications will also include a reference to the policy. There will be a significant room recovery fee for guests who do not comply in order to cover the extensive cost of restoring guest rooms to a smoke-free condition."

    It's probably more of a scare tactic since you would practically have to have the smoking gun, or in this case, a smoking in your hand for them to charge you. Or of course, if you leave evidence of smoking behind like Kori eluded to.

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    I have worked at a hotel front desk and also now still work for a hotel at reservations desk. Our band went nonsmoking in America and Canada. So all our brands are nonsmoking. We tell every one that and most people are thrilled. Sometimes if we forget and they ask for a smoking room we say that the room is nonsmoking and there is a fee for smoking in the room as well as there are designated smoking areas. Our hotels actually lost money b/c sometimes having only smoking rooms available.

    If they pay cash they might require that the guest leave a deposit at the desk, which can also be incase the use long distance phone calls etc.

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    I have worked at a hotel front desk and also now still work for a hotel at reservations desk. Our band went nonsmoking in America and Canada. So all our brands are nonsmoking. We tell every one that and most people are thrilled. Sometimes if we forget and they ask for a smoking room we say that the room is nonsmoking and there is a fee for smoking in the room as well as there are designated smoking areas. Our hotels actually lost money b/c sometimes having only smoking rooms available.
    I only stay at Marriott for this reason. It is a private business establishment and they have the right to tell you that you can't smoke there.

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    get the maid tosuck ur , ciggy odour

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    PRICELESS SPURS FAN polandprzem's Avatar
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    I have worked at a hotel front desk and also now still work for a hotel at reservations desk. Our band went nonsmoking in America and Canada. So all our brands are nonsmoking. We tell every one that and most people are thrilled. Sometimes if we forget and they ask for a smoking room we say that the room is nonsmoking and there is a fee for smoking in the room as well as there are designated smoking areas. Our hotels actually lost money b/c sometimes having only smoking rooms available.

    If they pay cash they might require that the guest leave a deposit at the desk, which can also be incase the use long distance phone calls etc.
    So were you asking for the additional money just in case?
    And was there a situation you took money from the card without a permission?

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    So were you asking for the additional money just in case?
    And was there a situation you took money from the card without a permission?
    They don't take money off your card without your permission. When you check in they ask for a credit card imprint (although it's mostly done electronically now) as a GUARANTEE for payment of your hotel costs - some hotels actually ask you to sign a paper stating that you agree with this, even though this is a generally accepted practice and probably explained in some fine print somewhere. So if you check out and some additional costs are discovered (like an empty mini bar fridge ) they have your card number and your agreement/guarantee from the check in.

    In case you don't have a credit card (or don't want to use one) they will ask you for some other form of guarantee at check in (that's a polite way to ask for cash). I also guarantee you that the staff will be paying much more attention to you and your room because they don't have the safety that a credit card imprint offers.

    And just for all the east european on the board, where hotel/travel formality are different, when they imprint your card at check-in they usually reserve the amount of your full stay on your card's account - they do it so that they know your card is good enough to pay for your stay. Although the money is not charged until you check out, the sum will go against your credit card daily/weekly limit, which could get you in trouble later that day/week.

    On my first trip to the US I made sure I had extra credit on my 2 cards (in 1982 2 cards was the max you could have) and left for a month long trip. So I rent a car at LAX and go to check in into my hotel for a 10 days stay - no problem there. But I maxed out my card against its weekly limit, because in those days the limit for an east european card was ridiculously low, so my mastercard was useless for the rest of the week despite having more than enough funds/credit on it left. Oh and 100$ dollars bills were, and probably still are, just as useless in LA as a maxed out card .

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    hehe Slomo

    Well I work in a hotel, and that was an interesting thing with this smokeing.

    We always asks while making a reservations for a CC number and we are checking the card (if someone is new to our hotel). But while checking tye card there are money on it, but you do not know if they gonna be after the guest will check out.
    cass? We want a prepayment for the first night.

    But as many times happened the guests do not telling if they were using the MiniBar and they are leaving the hotel and then we have to pay for the use of the MB.

    But mostly we have buisiness guys. and that is a good thing as many taking the invoices and the companies paying for them.

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    Five Rings... Kori Ellis's Avatar
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    If you smoke in a non-smoking room, they can charge you for steam cleaning or replacing the drapes, cleaning the carpets, etc.

    Even if the average person can't tell, a person who is allergic to smoke can tell easily if you smoked in a room. Even if you only smoke in the bathroom or leave a window open.

    Anyway, it's not worth doing, because they can definitely charge your card after you leave "without permission". When you register with the hotel and sign in, read the small print.

    For a short period, I worked in hotel reservations in Laughlin, NV. We definitely charged people for smoking in non-smoking rooms.

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    Yup but how you gonna prove it Kori - thats the point

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