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I find myself yelling at the TV every time Bruce puts the ball on the floor. WHat is he thinking?
Dude, either shoot the three or pass the rock. Please quit trying to imitate Manu breaking down his man off the dribble.
That is all.
I find myself yelling at the TV every time Bruce puts the ball on the floor. WHat is he thinking?
"Like Mike, if I could be like Mike..."
Seriously, it's like he's got whatever Malik had the last two years.
They both need to realize that they are role players, and that means they have a role to play.
It's not to score 20 a night, it's not to make the flashy pass, it's not to break down the D to set people up.
In Bowen's case, we have plenty of slashers, creators, and guys to handle the offensive load in Duncan, Parker, Manu, and Barry. All we need him to do is play lock down perimeter defense and hit the corner three. Quit trying to be an all-around player Bruce, that's not what we're paying you for and it's not what we need from you.
Brent needs to start instead of bruce, regardless of brent's age, and I feel TD needs to play more minutes, last I checked he only averages 35 mpg. But then again maybe its best to rest TD a bit more, not sure how sturdy his knees are.
No way you start Brent, he's the boost off the bench, and he can play anywhere from PG to SF if needed. You bring him off the bench wherever you need it.
If Bowen would just quit trying to develop an all-around game and focus on what he does well, he'd be fine.
we have alot of players that that phrase could apply to.
He doesn't seem to be confident with his shot this season. He needs to catch the ball and let it fly if he's wide open from behind the three point line. It's that simple. He should't put the ball on the floor ever unless he absolutely has to.
If he would just catch it and shoot it when he's got some daylight he would be fine. Hopefully he'll realize that.
It's not a confidence problem Brodels. I saw an interview at the start of the season where Bowen said he had been working on an "in between" game to compliment his three point shooting over the summer, and that he wanted to be able to take it to the bucket off the shot fake on the outside this year.
Someone *cough Pop cough* needs to tell him to knock off the game development and stick to D and the 3.
Give Bowen a year to develop that sort of game during practice bouts. Right now Bowen should be sticking to three's. If the defender is total garbage and if it looks like he has the step or can take him then he should, but right now calm down and get better on the dribble drive,pump fake, fadeaway game.
well , we have people complaining that bruce can't contribute enough offensively and then others saying we only want your 3's and D.
i understand the point, but I have no problem with BB continuing his experiment with the in between game in November. If it's hurting more than it's helping, I'm sure Pop will get on his ass about it around mid season....
And here I thought he had a few pretty nice jump shots that went in last night????
All Bruce's points were in between last night.
Make up your minds about what you want....
some people just like to whine for whining sake
I too enjoyed Bruces offense last night
I'd say Bruce Bruce is about just right when it comes to his offense. In some respects it is good to have a guy like him who is content to spot up, make some cuts, and generally stay out of the way of his teammates. Sure, perhaps he occasionally passes up a shot he should have taken but given his ability and his role I think that is preferable to someone who will just fire at will. I also like the fact that he is willing to put the ball on the floor and attack the rim occasionally.
No player is perfect, but I don't think Bowen's flaws are that horrible.
I agree, as long as he makes a quick move and shoots. The problem is when he starts to yo-yo around like he thinks he is Dr. J.
He missed a lot fewer shots than the person he was guarding... I'll take it.
bigzak,
I'd argue we don't have enough shots to go aroudn on offense as it is, between Tim, Manu, Tony, Barry, and DBrown. You've gotta feed Rasho too.
Who would you rather have shooting? Manu/Tony/Barry, or Bowen.
Bowen did a decent job last night, but let's be honest - everyone on the Spurs team had a good game last night.
I hate when Bowen puts the ball on the ground. He was best in his 2003 form when he either shot the corner three or passed the ball. When he puts the ball on the ground, his midrange shot is below average at best and he's not a skilled passer.
Also like 2003, Bowen can get out in the break and score some points. He's one of the faster players in the league at his position, so he should be able to get one or two fast break layups a game. I also wouldn't mind it if he drove the ball all the way to the rack and tried to finish. I have a problem with how he pump fakes the three and then drives to about ten feet out and stops. That doesn't do anything other than ruin the spacing on the floor.
Basically, he needs to watch old Sean Elliott tape. Elliott would either take that corner shot or attack the basket. He didn't settle for the in-between, off the dribble BS.
The flow of the offense, time left on the shot clock, and quality of the look factor in. Also are you saying that Bowen is not an accurate shooter? If this discussion was in regards to who you would want at the line then sure, Bowen would be close to the bottom of the list.Who would you rather have shooting? Manu/Tony/Barry, or Bowen.
This discussion has the feel of last year's ing about the one jumpshot Rose would take per game. Whatever it is, let it go man.
Manu and Barry can shoot whatever shot they feel is a good one...i give them free reign. Tony should not be shooting deep outside shots. Bruce should take what is given to him. I'm not looking for BB to be our second or even third scorer, but if he can continue to have efficient offensive games while still busting ass on D, I think that's what we all want. I will concede the fact that come playoffs, offensively, his 3 point shooting will be what we need the most, and if his 3pt % suffers from his in between game freelancing, then you are right.I'd argue we don't have enough shots to go aroudn on offense as it is, between Tim, Manu, Tony, Barry, and DBrown. You've gotta feed Rasho too.
Who would you rather have shooting? Manu/Tony/Barry, or Bowen.
As said, it's early, let see if he can develop some consistency here, and if not, I think we can trust in Pop to pull his reigns back.
I don't have a problem with Bowen doing something if the shot clock is running down. I do have a problem with him taking drives early in the offensive possession, and I cringe anytime he puts the ball on the floor, particularly if he is going baseline, because you know that one-legged 10 foot half ass floater that never goes in is coming.
I'm sorry Marcus, we can't all be as knowledgeable as you about basketball
Bowen attacking the basket is a good thing because he is often likely to catch his defender napping. Sure, I'd like to see him attack the rack rather than pull up, but once again, we are the top of a molehill mountain.
I don't have a problem with Bowen doing something if the shot clock is running down. I do have a problem with him taking drives early in the offensive possession,
I have to agree that this is definitely NOT the preferred option early in the shot clock. I'll have to watch that more carefully. As you said though, 10 secs or less, you gotta take what the D gives you.
Bowen's a good enough shot that if he has a good look early in the shot clock then he should take it. As for his drives, that is simply to keep the defense honest. During his career as a Spur he has been fairly wise as to when and how many times he puts the ball on the floor. While I am inclined to feel that he should attack the rim when he drives, one should be mindful of his FT%. In his case it might be preferable for him to take the pull up jumper...well, at least a good case could be made.
For years everyone yelled at Bowen that he was too one-dimensional. He neede to develop some offense--and the advice was always to learn to drive off the faked three and either go to the hole or hit the pull up jumper. This is, and was, logical advice--for a young player. But you can't teach an old dog, etc. etc.
He's trying to do what everyone suggested. And may get desperate to do it as he gets older, loses a step on his defensive skills and faces more criticism.
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