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This reminds me of when Spurs fans turned on David in his final couple years in the league. Now it's Bowen who gets blamed after every loss.
No doubt he's 1 of the best def player...too bad his game is offset by his sh*tty offense. Ok so he's pretty good w/ the 3's but as a starter who averages more than 30 min per game & only scores around 5-6 pts., he's an offensive liabilty. It would be interesting to see the plus/minus stats with & without him on the court. Just wondering with SAS team def approach, would it be better to have an avg defender with better off game in the 3-spot?
This reminds me of when Spurs fans turned on David in his final couple years in the league. Now it's Bowen who gets blamed after every loss.
The Spurs aren't going to trade Bowen. Their bench needs to improve, their starting center needs to improve. The Big 3 plus Bowen are fine.
bowens not in the same league as david, bowens minutes need to be reduced especially in the crunch time. and i think he definately needs to start comin off of the bench.
I didn't say that. just trying to figure out if he's helping to hurting the team w/ the minutes that he plays.
Ridiculous.
Ok. Since Bowen is worthless, he can't be traded.
End of thread.
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On the season, he has the second best total plus/minus on the team, right after Duncan.
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Ok. Since Bowen is worthless, he can't be traded.
End of thread.
these bowen haters make me sick.....
I'm not suggesting the Spurs should trade or bench Bowen.
But out of curiosity, what do Spur fans think Bowen could realistically bring in a trade scenario? How much do you think the rest of league values him? Would there be many teams after him if he was on the block?
I don't personally think he's appreciated enough around the league. But because he's such a specialty type player, I don't know if there would really be alot of interest in him.
your thoughts?
Bench is a problem, but I think the change needs to be at the 2 spot since we can't trade Bruce. Not sure if there's one out there, but we need a consistent 20ppg scorer on the perimeter that can play at least a little d. Off season that is.
Pretty much every GM in the league would want him. He's one of the top perimeter defenders in the game and he doesn't make much money.
thanx...this what I was looking to find. I'm not trying to bash Bruce, just looking to see his efficiency. when there are nights where his man scores 30+ and he's scoring 6...you have to wonder.
For some of the season, he was even ahead of Tim in +/-. Now, Duncan is first, Bowen's second and Parker's third in total +/-.
Look at the column in the far right.
http://www.popcornmachine.net/cgi-bi...AS&type=totals
this site is more realist
http://www.82games.com/0607/0607SAS.HTM
Those are probably pretty similar to the per game stats on Popcorn Machine. I posted the link to the season totals, not the per games.
which means we'd get 4 him. so he stays
my battery went out on my keyboard. this on-screen one sucks soiled ass
practically nothing similar
Ok help me out here (I flunked statistics in school) but how is it that he ranked 1st/2nd in Kori's link to 6th and in the red here?
Are the 82games.com stats per 48 minutes or what?
Most NBA teams are using the popcorn machine stats this year, that's why I usually go there.
How can you claim one list is more "realist" if you don't know what they are saying?
NBA.com shows Bowen third after Duncan and Parker.
http://www.nba.com/statistics/lenovo...t=9&team=Spurs
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