Who got snubbed?

[dallaskd]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ard/index.html

[Amare_32]

Josh Howard
Ben Gordon
Joe Johnson

[JMarkJohns]

Zach Randolph. Averages of 24 and 12 for any western big is impressive. I don't care his team's record. He was more deserving than either of the Phoenix forwards named and as deserving as any other forward outside of Garnett, Dirk and Duncan.

[Amare_32]

Zach Randolph. Averages of 24 and 12 for any western big is impressive. I don't care his team's record. He was more deserving than either of the Phoenix forwards named and as deserving as any other forward outside of Garnett, Dirk and Duncan.

I disagree with you. The Coaches would have been ripped if Zach got in over Amare,Dirk,Duncan or KG.

[JMarkJohns]

I disagree with you. The Coaches would have been ripped if Zach got in over Amare,Dirk,Duncan or KG.

Not over Duncan, Dirk or Garnett, but over every other big.

[Amare_32]

Not over Duncan, Dirk or Garnett, but over every other big.

Look at it this way. If he would have been put in over Amare and Dirk both the Suns or Mavs have a legit beef. A team win/loss record has to mean something. Plus you can't deny Amare is having a good year.

[Greg Oden]

The all-star game is nothing but a popularity contest. If Randolph did windmill dunks every game, he'd be a starter.

[JMarkJohns]

Not over Dirk. Nor Duncan. Nor Garnett.

I don't know, you tell me... 24 and 12 or 19 and 9?

I understand the whole "team thing" but that shouldn't factor in that much in All-Star teams. 24-12 is much more deserving than 19-9.

[Amare_32]

Not over Dirk. Nor Duncan. Nor Garnett.

I don't know, you tell me... 24 and 12 or 19 and 9?

I understand the whole "team thing" but that shouldn't factor in that much in All-Star teams. 24-12 is much more deserving than 19-9.

Yes the numbers favor Zach but is a soft 24-12. He is like Webber when he was with the 76ers. The numbers are just stat fillers. Plus his rep for clashing with his coaches hurts him in the voting.

[JMarkJohns]

That's complete bull . As a big, you can't put up a soft 24-12 in the Western Conference. Also, Webber was in the East when he put up nearly 20-10 with the '6ers. I'll by his rep hurting him, but that wasn't the purpose of the thread which simply asked who was snubbed, as in who was deserving but won't make the team.

Randolph and his unsoft 24-12 is the biggest snub.

[Amare_32]

That's complete bull . As a big, you can't put up a soft 24-12 in the Western Conference. Also, Webber was in the East when he put up nearly 20-10 with the '6ers. I'll by his rep hurting him, but that wasn't the purpose of the thread which simply asked who was snubbed, as in who was deserving but won't make the team.

Randolph and his unsoft 24-12 is the biggest snub.

Fine thats your opinion,mine is will freeze over before he is an All Star. First his team is below .500 he has a bad rep plus the depth of the forward position in the West.

[JMarkJohns]

Also, it's not like Randolph struggles against good teams. He averages 25-11 vs. .500 or better teams and 23-10 vs. the top-5 recorded teams in the NBA.

He's very deserving and his stats are not soft.

[Amare_32]

That's complete bull . As a big, you can't put up a soft 24-12 in the Western Conference. Also, Webber was in the East when he put up nearly 20-10 with the '6ers. I'll by his rep hurting him, but that wasn't the purpose of the thread which simply asked who was snubbed, as in who was deserving but won't make the team.

Randolph and his unsoft 24-12 is the biggest snub.

You tell how many games have they won with him putting up those numbers.

[dallaskd]

zach randolph should have gotten in as well as melo(30 ppg) but as much as i want josh howard to get in there wasnt a sopt for him. no way tony parker should have gotten in but whatever, its a popularity contest and a joke game, im glad j-ho didnt get in so he doesnt get hurt.

[JMarkJohns]

Maybe you should understand basketball before you form such unflinching opinions.

All those reasons you mention speak to why he was snubbed, not that he wasn't deserving.

[JMarkJohns]

You tell how many games have they won with him putting up those numbers.

Tell me where it says a team's record should factor into an individual player honor.

I'm not saying it doesn't, just that it shouldn't.

[ponky]

why are you suns fans arguing with each other?!?!?!??!...news alert: you have THREE all-stars in the game

[dallaskd]

Tell me where it says a team's record should factor into an individual player honor.

I'm not saying it doesn't, just that it shouldn't.

team success should factor into MVP but not all star game. all star game is about the best players in the NBA.

[Amare_32]

Maybe you should understand basketball before you form such unflinching opinions.

All those reasons you mention speak to why he was snubbed, not that he wasn't deserving.

Hey you the one that said he deserves a spot not me. Personally I think there are more deserving players like,Josh Howard and Carmelo. Zach is a talented player but the fact remains he is putting up good numbers on a losing team. I have no problem if he made the team if players like Howard and Carmelo were not snubbed by the fans or coaches.

[JMarkJohns]

And to answer your question, jackass, the Blazers are 11-10 when Randolph scores 25 points or more. Considering the Blazers are just 20-27, I'd say they very much need his 25-11 vs. .500 teams.

Eat your own bull , please...

[Amare_32]

why are you suns fans arguing with each other?!?!?!??!...news alert: you have THREE all-stars in the game

Because the Bulls/Sonics game is

[ponky]

Because the Bulls/Sonics game is

it is, but the blazers/nuggets game is close

[dallaskd]

And to answer your question, jackass, the Blazers are 11-10 when Randolph scores 25 points or more. Considering the Blazers are just 20-27, I'd say they very much need his 25-11 vs. .500 teams.

Eat your own bull , please...

yeah because his team SUCKS! the all star game is about the BEST PLAYERS. not their teams records.

[JMarkJohns]

Hey you the one that said he deserves a spot not me. Personally I think there are more deserving players like,Josh Howard and Carmelo. Zach is a talented player but the fact remains he is putting up good numbers on a losing team. I have no problem if he made the team if players like Howard and Carmelo were not snubbed by the fans or coaches.

Carmelo was snubbed because of his hit-n-run. Fine. Got it. Randolph's numbers are better than Howard's, Marion's, Amare's and Brand's and as good as Boozer's and Carmelo's.

His team sucks, but plays much better when Randolph scores more. If such is the case, which it is, then his averages can't be looked at in a negative light as just another player with good numbers on a bad team. They need his numbers.

[JMarkJohns]

yeah because his team SUCKS! the all star game is about the BEST PLAYERS. not their teams records.

That's my point. I'm only giving these stats to prove Randolph's worth because other's say he's undeserving.