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    Straight Forward PM5K's Avatar
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    Yeah that's just what they need out there, more ...

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    Eat More Chips AlamoSpursFan's Avatar
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    GodDAMN, I'm glad I don't live up that way anymore...

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    Eat More Chips AlamoSpursFan's Avatar
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    "There are a quarter-million people in the area with $135,000-plus annual incomes."
    Not according to the NFL...

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    I have a coupon for that. CheapBastard's Avatar
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    Just another development I'll never visit. Just like the shops at la cantera.

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    Too bad a 281 expansion project won't complete until sometime between 2012-2014. Thanks anti-toll road groups and environmentalists.

    The project would already be a year in with only one year remaining had they not ed and moaned about it the first time around.

    Best part is, it's still going to be built and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Well, actually there is something, but those bags don't have near the support that is needed.

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    Thanks for the info Buddy.

    I agree with you Johnsmith. SOMETHING will have to be done to 281 soon as they just keep adding more and more stuff in the area. If you don't want to pay a toll, use the damn access road for free.

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    SWEETNESS!!!!


    maybe I can get a job out there!!!!

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    Eat More Chips AlamoSpursFan's Avatar
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    If you don't want to pay a toll, use the damn access road for free.
    What if I'd rather use the overpasses that were already budgeted for?

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    What if I'd rather use the overpasses that were already budgeted for?

    Bad news chief, that money's gone. There is nothing you can do about that now. It was gone before the word toll was ever muttered out of anyone's mouth.


    So unless you want nothing out there until around 2025, keep complaining about the money that was budgeted for those overpasses.

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    What if I'd rather use the overpasses that were already budgeted for?
    You mean the ones that the gas tax, which the asshole politicians are illegally spending on other , is supposed to pay for? Yeah, it's the protestors and environmentalists fault. Damn, you toll-trolls must never get to fish. You swallow all the hooks, line and sinkers.

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    You mean the ones that the gas tax, which the asshole politicians are illegally spending on other , is supposed to pay for? Yeah, it's the protestors and environmentalists fault. Damn, you toll-trolls must never get to fish. You swallow all the hooks, line and sinkers.
    I promise you I know more about why the first attempt at the job was shut down. Environmentalists got a hold of the contract and noticed (which was pretty ing obvious), that TxDot (which is the most poorly run agency in the world) decided to do a ty job on the environmental impact study. This was a bad mistake on TxDot's part because this job as everyone knows will be right over the Edward's Aquafer. So yeah, it is the environmentalist's fault as well as Txdot for getting too y.


    The job was then cancelled (not delayed) so that a proper environmental impact study could be done. These studies usually take a couple of years. So in those couple of years, the landscape of the area (such as this development) will change and thus, new drawings, new plans, and the job has to be re-bid. Therefore, construction of the new toll road will not start until around 2012.

    Oh and by the way, when it's done, it's not as if everyone will be paying a toll immediately. 1604 still needs to begin work before tolling ever begins. A SA driver won't pay a toll until around 2015-2018.

    Finally, did you know that one of the items that gas taxes are going towards are the emergency flight for life around the area? While I agree with you that gas taxes have been moved around without voter consent, we can't just rob Peter to pay Paul at this point, we're in too deep into other areas with gas taxes.

    I know, I just thought of an alternative that would make it where gas taxes don't have to be raised, other items that are being paid for by gas taxes won't suffer, the road can be built quickly............this is genious, I can't believe I never thought of this before...........you ready for it.................BUILD ING TOLL ROADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Veteran exstatic's Avatar
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    The real bad part about a tolled 281 is that Blanco rd. and Bulverde rd. above 1604 will stay as they are. There is a no-compete clause that disallows improvements to nearby roads and highways so that people will use the ing toll road instead.

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    It's In The Numbers 1369's Avatar
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    The real bad part about a tolled 281 is that Blanco rd. and Bulverde rd. above 1604 will stay as they are. There is a no-compete clause that disallows improvements to nearby roads and highways so that people will use the ing toll road instead.
    Not so, Ex. They just had a meeting in my area about the planned expansion of Blanco to Borgfield (which is sorely needed).

    One thing about the planned hotel deal I don't get is that with all the construction and access being for for a number of years, why build it now?

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    Not so, Ex. They just had a meeting in my area about the planned expansion of Blanco to Borgfield (which is sorely needed).

    One thing about the planned hotel deal I don't get is that with all the construction and access being for for a number of years, why build it now?

    They're building on the assumption (of which is correct) that the roads will be improved.

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    Not so, Ex. They just had a meeting in my area about the planned expansion of Blanco to Borgfield (which is sorely needed).

    One thing about the planned hotel deal I don't get is that with all the construction and access being for for a number of years, why build it now?

    Why'd they build all that other ?

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    Damn You Commies T Park's Avatar
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    how about they use our tax dollars to build roads instead of social services bull .

    Use tax dollars to fund road projects.

    Novel idea.

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    Not so, Ex. They just had a meeting in my area about the planned expansion of Blanco to Borgfield (which is sorely needed).
    Anymore details on this? I'd assume the expansion of Blanco will run from 1604 out to Borgfield Rd, correct? Any idea when they are going to start the project?

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    It's In The Numbers 1369's Avatar
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    Anymore details on this? I'd assume the expansion of Blanco will run from 1604 out to Borgfield Rd, correct? Any idea when they are going to start the project?
    They had the meeting late last month in the neighborhood (That church off Wilderness Oak). I didn't make it, but our HOA president did. He still owes me the minutes. From what I understand, it'll widen Blanco to 4 lanes from where it necks down between 1604 and Huebner and carry it on the Borgfield.

    As soon as I get the minutes I'll post them.

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    everyone is so anti-everything new around here...this isnt a bad thing

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    everyone is so anti-everything new around here...this isnt a bad thing

    Exactly. I'm tired of the "we like our small town atmosphere" bull . Bad news, you don't live in a ing small town anymore. If it bothers you so much that your city is growing, leave.

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    Whoa. That's deep. spurschick's Avatar
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    From what I understand, it'll widen Blanco to 4 lanes from where it necks down between 1604 and Huebner and carry it on the Borgfield.
    Halle- in-lujah! If I leave my house in the morning before 6:30am or after 9:00am, I'm fine. If I leave anywhere in between, it takes around a half-hour just to get from my front gate to Huebner. It's ridiculous. They're clearing quite a bit of land at the Blanco/Huebner area for retail and a sign went up for a Mexican restaurant right next to the Mays YMCA, so I figured a widening of the road wasn't far behind.

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    Exactly. I'm tired of the "we like our small town atmosphere" bull . Bad news, you don't live in a ing small town anymore. If it bothers you so much that your city is growing, leave.
    Yeah, if we had it like alot of people around here seem to want it, we would be a small traders outpost on the Mexican border with no shopping centers and heaven forbid any construction over the recharge zone. And no white people! And no modern conveniences either, we want to live in shacks on the southside.

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    They had the meeting late last month in the neighborhood (That church off Wilderness Oak). I didn't make it, but our HOA president did. He still owes me the minutes. From what I understand, it'll widen Blanco to 4 lanes from where it necks down between 1604 and Huebner and carry it on the Borgfield.

    As soon as I get the minutes I'll post them.
    I could stand in my backyard and hit that Church's parking lot with a football.

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