Just goes to show you can take the redneck out of the country, but you cant take the country out of the redneck.
1. Hit gas.
2. Turn left.
3. Avoid other cars.
Overnight TV Ratings for Bud Shootout: Fox's broadcast of Saturday night's Budweiser Shootout from Daytona International Speedway earned the second-highest overnight rating for any weekend sports broadcast, according to numbers posted by Street & Smith's SportsBusiness Daily. The non-points race for last year's Nextel Cup pole winners and previous event champions earned a 4.2 overnight Nielsen Media Research rating and a 7 market share.
Fox's coverage of Sunday's qualifying session for next week's Daytona 500 Nextel Cup season opener earned a 2.5 overnight rating and a 6 share.
Just goes to show you can take the redneck out of the country, but you cant take the country out of the redneck.
1. Hit gas.
2. Turn left.
3. Avoid other cars.
As opposed to... ring bell, beat the poop out of each other, ring bell... repeat.
Yeah, that's much better.
One big difference is that neks have stock car fans that aren't just 18-33 year old single men that want to party and drink like they are still in hs.
LOL...so the Nascar driver is more "skilled" or "athletic" is what you're inferring??![]()
I'm married with a kid. College educated. I don't drink. I don't go crazy during fights.
My boss is a huge fan...married with a 3 kids, college educated, etc etc.
Sure there are some idiots that would fit the picture you paint, but you'd be surprised how many don't...
Yeah, Nascar fans are so sophisticated.
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LOL...
Seriously, you just can't compare any sport's fans to NASCAR's...that's just the way it is...
Real Nascar fan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQD5ikVAzqU
Nascar translation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX6T6tTF82w
LOL...maybe we do need some more NASCAR threads around here...
LOL....I was just busting your balls. Chill out. You knew the response youd get when you posted, so quit acting like you didnt.
I have 2 MS 2 kids 1 one way military etc etc
Sure there are some neks that would fit the picture you paint, but you'd be surprised how many don't...
So the Nascar driver is more "skilled" or "athletic" is what you're inferring??
Yes, that's for sure what I'm referring to. Way to follow logical patterns.
LOL...my question had nothing to do with what I quoted...
I was just re-asking the original question above that you ignored...now twice...
Here ya go:
CaptMike's answer goes ____________________________________![]()
The best part is I wasn't making any reference to that at all. Again... lo-gi-cal pat-tern. The reason my reply had nothing to do with your quote was that you were in the wrong holding pattern.
Alrighty then...
Which all-in-all I find this discussion extremely humorous, when the original point was a redneck car racin' tabaky chewin' beer drinkin stupid no athlete only going around in circles 'sport' gets higher ratings... for qualifying... than any UFC ever had for anything.
I would think that NASCAR progression would be a line that UFC fans would want to follow. It started as a male only, 18-35, no mass tv package, southern, redneck, single demographic event supported originally only but localized crowds as a spectator event. Now it is the single largest spectator league in the world, with networks paying huge $ for programming rights and sponsors paying huge $ for naming rights. Why you wanna make fun of something that wrote the blue print for what you wanna be?
because it's not a sport...
and MMA for the most part will always be on PPV, Showtime, HBO, etc. It won't be on live every Sunday afternoon...
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So, isn't it the old addage that if an event is scored, its not a sport (i.e. gymnastics, skating, etc). Isn't fighting scored?
Remember how big heavyweight boxing was around 10-15 years ago?
Moral of the story is... enjoy the peak while you are on it.
If you look at the amount of increasing national exposure, revenues, and starup promotions that MMA has received in the last six months, you'd know that MMA is not even close to peaking.
To try to equate the current status of MMA to the popularity of heavyweight boxing is inane, especially when you consider that MMA is a big reason why boxing's popularity has diminished.
Also, since when did Nascar ever get most of their revenues from PPV events? Nascar, the blueprint for MMA?![]()
Please tell me you aren't REALLY ignorant enough to believe that.
And you are right about PPV. NASCAR doesn't need PPV, because it gets its revenue from advertising. The networks (5 of them) paid 4.4 billion dollars for the RIGHT to broadcast. PPV means not for wide enough consumption to have suitable revenue to warrant a full network contract.
Wow, seriously, if you are going to pick arguements, those are some pretty... at the least uninformed, lanes to go down.
Last edited by MajorMike; 02-13-2007 at 09:11 PM.
I was just busting your balls earlier, but now I will say my final piece on this whole NASCAR mythology youre spinning.
While I dont know the Merriam-Webster definition, even if I did, I probably wouldnt agree.
To me, a sport contains athletes. Let me explain.
Im sure the NASCAR drivers today are all very much into nutrition and working out, etc. But the "sport" in question does not require a fitness level to excel at.
Same with golf. You can be fat and old and still be awesome (even the best). Same with NASCAR.
I can be the most physically-fit, athletic Spelling Bee Champion in the world....doesnt make the spelling bee a sport.
Therefore, by my personal definition, for a compe ion to become a sport it must require athletes.
I have serious doubts with that statement for obvious reasons. It may be the single largest spectator sport in America, but not the world. Do I need to tell you what most people outside the US watch for sport? What stadiums hold well over 300,000 (up to 1.1 million) people with multiple leagues across the globe?Now it is the single largest spectator league in the world
I didnt think so.
What I'll tell you is that your are ignorant enough to not know it.
Yes, so we both agree that your statement of Nascar providing a blueprint for MMA is bull . You call me uninformed? How about paying attention to the media avenues the two sports have taken and how different they are. ing blueprint...![]()
I remember you equating MMA to Roller Derby, as it being a fad. Now you say MMA has peaked. Making an ass out of a imbecile like you isn't a big feat (especially with the ridiculous statements you make), but please read the article in the hope that you may learn something. Artcle dated yesterday, 2/12/2007. The article takes a look at revenues, ppv numbers, and compe ion such as boxing. It also shows how the world of MMA is expanding. A good read for whoever may be reading this response to a lout.
http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/...9-14455104.htm
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Last edited by IX_Equilibrium; 02-14-2007 at 01:08 AM.
Man. Diluted, you are for sure. That is quite possibly the stupidest statement I have ever heard. MMA was nothing before boxing was already on its way out the door. Different media outlets? Of course they do. It's because of the media outlets that will HAVE them. Trust me, if UFC was anything worth having ever money grubbing network exec known to man would try pitching it as the next big thing. Its not on Fox or ABC or NBC or TNT because it doesn't warrant the time there. , NASCAR has an entire channel (Speed). NASCAR has its own DIRECTV package. UFC gets, according to your article, "average of 350,000 to 400,000 pay-per-view buys a year and more than 2 million viewers a season on e TV, through its reality series The Ultimate Fighter and live fight telecasts." NASCAR got over 1.3 million to just watch one race qualifying. NASCAR has one RACE that draws 400,000 people to it.
Based on your previously tendencies to blow up and post idiot threads, I am not surprised, however, of some of the dumb ideas you have about the world. Leonard actually makes a decent argument. You just flame and act like a child. You are the exact person I would imagine would be a UFC fan: Instant gratification; no substance. But please, open your mouth some more, I'm sure LEO and Dark are loving your help.
I won't disagree with any of that sport talk, was just making a point about differences in qualifying language.
As far as spectators? Notice I said League. No other League in the world averages as many people per event as NASCAR. Perhaps the only 2 leagues in the world that could compare are the Premier League or the NFL, and neither come close, really. It is hard to compare when NASCAR draws crowds of 400k (Indy), 250k, 250k (Texas twice), 200k, 200k (Talledega twice), 200k, 200k (Daytona twice), 165k, 165k (Charlotte twice),160k, 160k (Bristol twice), 140k, 140k (LV twice), 100k, 100k (Cali twice), etc, etc. No way any league can compare to that. If you add in the fact that a NASCAR race is a whole weekend, and yes you buy tickets to every event, then those numbers go up astronomically. That is just at the races. A NY Times article lists NASCAR and the 2nd most-watched sport in America and the Daytona 500 as the 2nd most-watched sporting event behind the Super Bowl.
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