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    The heartbreaking WCFs loss to Washington Bullets in Gm 7 107-105.

    Round 2 they beat Philly in 7 games.
    Who was on that Philly team, and why did that Philly team only win 47 games that year? (Was in a 6 year stretch that Philly averaged about 60 wins per year)
    Was Dr J. injured during the regular season?


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    was this the game where Wes Unseld (spelling) reached behind him and grabbed Artis Gilmore causing Gilmore to fall into Unsled, the ref called a foul Washington get's the ball and win the game and series?

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    Here's the Sixers' roster from that season:

    Code:
    Name                   G GS   MP   FG  FGA  3P  3PA   FT  FTA  ORB  DRB  TRB  AST STL BLK  TO  PF  PTS
    +--------------------+---+--+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+
     Julius Erving         78    2802  715 1455           373  501  198  366  564  357 133 100 315 207 1803
     Darryl Dawkins        78    2035  430  831           158  235  123  508  631  128  32 143 197 295 1018
     Henry Bibby           82    2538  368  869           266  335   72  172  244  371  72   7 197 199 1002
     Bobby Jones           80    2304  378  704           209  277  199  332  531  201 107  96 165 245  965
     Doug Collins          47    1595  358  717           201  247   36   87  123  191  52  20 131 139  917
     Caldwell Jones        78    2171  302  637           121  162  177  570  747  151  39 157 156 303  725
     Steve Mix             74    1269  265  493           161  201  109  184  293  121  57  16 100 112  691
     Maurice Cheeks        82    2409  292  572           101  140   63  191  254  431 174  12 193 198  685
     Joe Bryant            70    1064  205  478           123  170   96  163  259  103  49   9 114 171  533
     Eric Money            23     545  119  217            34   54   15   22   37   82  13   2  69  70  272
     Ralph Simpson         37     452   87  196            28   40   16   19   35   58  25   1  47  27  202
     Al Skinner            22     309   36   89            27   32   15   29   44   40  18   1  34  61   99
     Harvey Catchings      25     289   28   68            13   17   30   68   98   18   8  35  37  42   69
     Marlon Redmond         4      23    1   12             0    0    0    1    1    1   0   0   1   3    2
    +--------------------+---+--+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+
    I think, if you go back and look at standings from that era, you'll find that there weren't a lot of teams rolling up win totals in the high 50's or low 60's. The teams that reached those win totals were truly exceptional. In part, I think that was because there were fewer teams and the talent was abit more evenly distributed -- in 1977 for example, the Lakers had the best record in basketball, but won only 53 games; in the same 1979 season that you asked about, the Bullets had the best record in basketball, but won only 54 games.

    That trend is particularly in the late 70's, I think, when you had a series of champions who didn't really come close to winning another le during that era:

    1975: Golden State beat Washington and lost the next year in the WCF; Washington lost in the ECSF.

    1976: Boston beat Phoenix and lost the next year in the ECSF; Phoenix didn't qualify for the 1977 playoffs

    1977: Portland beat Philadelphia and lost the next year in the WCSF; Philly lost in the ECF

    1978: Washington beat Seattle and the teams each made the 1979 Finals, with the result reversing. In 1980, Seattle lost in the WCF, but Washington lost in the First Round.

    I suppose that's an indication of parity, and parity tends to make records look mediocre, particularly in this day and age when every season seems to bring a 60-win team or two.
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    The heartbreaking WCFs loss to Washington Bullets in Gm 7 107-105.
    I believe that was the Eastern Conference Finals...

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    The heartbreaking WCFs loss to Washington Bullets in Gm 7 107-105.

    Round 2 they beat Philly in 7 games.
    Who was on that Philly team, and why did that Philly team only win 47 games that year? (Was in a 6 year stretch that Philly averaged about 60 wins per year)
    Was Dr J. injured during the regular season?


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    It was moreso the fact that:
    1) it was the first year after the George McGinnis for Bobby Jones trade
    2) Doug Collins missed 35 games.

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    That 76ers team was on its way up - they really started dominating the next season on through to their 1983 championship.

    The Spurs were only 48-34 in 1979 but were first in the East Central. Favored over the 76ers, but an underdog that *almost* took down the Bullets. Damn.

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    2) Doug Collins missed 35 games.
    He also missed the 1979 NBA Playoffs and wasn't ever really the same after that injury.

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    The heartbreaking WCFs loss to Washington Bullets in Gm 7 107-105.

    Round 2 they beat Philly in 7 games.
    Who was on that Philly team, and why did that Philly team only win 47 games that year? (Was in a 6 year stretch that Philly averaged about 60 wins per year)
    Was Dr J. injured during the regular season?


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    We had Philly down 3-1 and let Philly tie the series before we won in game 7.

    I still remember the Express News sports page 1 with a picture of a certain Spurs player drinking out of a Champaigne bottle after we finally beat Philly in Game 7.

    Do any of you know what Spur was drinking the champagne?

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    Do any of you know what Spur was drinking the champagne?

    Mike Green

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    Lame to drink champagne after winning the conference semifinals.

    But it was the first playoff series victory in Spurs history, NBA or ABA.

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    The heartbreaking WCFs loss to Washington Bullets in Gm 7 107-105.

    Round 2 they beat Philly in 7 games.
    Who was on that Philly team, and why did that Philly team only win 47 games that year? (Was in a 6 year stretch that Philly averaged about 60 wins per year)
    Was Dr J. injured during the regular season?


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    I was at that game 7. It was my first Spurs game and I was a young soldier at Fort Sam.

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    I remember at the end of game 7 everyone stormed the court.

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    was this the game where Wes Unseld (spelling) reached behind him and grabbed Artis Gilmore causing Gilmore to fall into Unsled, the ref called a foul Washington get's the ball and win the game and series?
    Artis wasn't around until much later. Imagine if we would've had Artis instead of The Whopper, wow!

    This game featured the infamous moving pick called on Whopper, correct? My youthful introduction to Spurs heartache-I cried like a baby.
    Didn't the Spurs blow a 3-1 lead in the Washington series as well?

    Doug Moe protested the deciding game I believe, and made some comments to the media about the refs that resulted in a fine. I seem to recall that Spurs fans took up a collection and paid the fine for him! That's the way it was back then.

    Being so naiive, I thought that because Moe protested the game, there was a good chance that the league would actually overturn the call and we'd get the win. I simply couldn't believe or accept that we'd go out like that...
    You've got to take the bitter with the sweet, and we've had a taste of the bitter along with the sweet, I reckon!
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    The pass game vs Portland. Spurs were 50 to 1 to win it all that year.

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    The offensive was called by Jack Madden against Mark Olberding (although I have seen elsewhere that it was against Billy Paultz, I seem to remember from listening to the game that it was Olberding) with the Spurs still up and about two minutes left in game 7 of the 1979 ECF. What happened is that Olberding (or Paultz) handed the ball off and as he did, he stepped in front of the defender who was chasing the guy who got the ball. It was a lame call for those days in the NBA. Later, somebody pointed out correctly that if that was an offensive foul, then Wes Unseld would have fouled out of every game he ever played in.

    None of these games were televised, so I can only go by what I remember from the radio call and newspaper accounts.

    Moe made some remarks and got fined a bunch ($10K ?). One of the local radio stations took up a collection in pennies which they planned to mail in to the league office (the money was later given to charity).

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    We had Philly down 3-1 and let Philly tie the series before we won in game 7.

    I still remember the Express News sports page 1 with a picture of a certain Spurs player drinking out of a Champaigne bottle after we finally beat Philly in Game 7.

    Do any of you know what Spur was drinking the champagne?

    Are you sure it wasn't the San Antonio Light, and not the Express news

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    The offensive was called by Jack Madden against Mark Olberding (although I have seen elsewhere that it was against Billy Paultz, I seem to remember from listening to the game that it was Olberding) with the Spurs still up and about two minutes left in game 7 of the 1979 ECF. What happened is that Olberding (or Paultz) handed the ball off and as he did, he stepped in front of the defender who was chasing the guy who got the ball. It was a lame call for those days in the NBA. Later, somebody pointed out correctly that if that was an offensive foul, then Wes Unseld would have fouled out of every game he ever played in.

    None of these games were televised, so I can only go by what I remember from the radio call and newspaper accounts.

    Moe made some remarks and got fined a bunch ($10K ?). One of the local radio stations took up a collection in pennies which they planned to mail in to the league office (the money was later given to charity).
    Thanks Shoog, that's a gap in my Spurs memories that's now filled. I was playing in disco clubs and teaching at the same time in '79 so I don't remember much of what my beloved team did that year.

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    Alan Bristow hit the biggest shot in Spurs history (until AJ's shot in Madison Square Garden) to win that series. That was the first Spurs playoff series win (ABA or NBA) of all time.

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    I think the call was made closer to the end of the game but it's not important. It clearly turned the game around. I remember that Silas got the ball as usual at the end of the game because he was the inimitable 'Captain Late" and rubbed off his defender with the pick around the top right of the key. Moving pick my ass!

    It would have been a easy shot, but the whistle blew. The common thought amongst all fans from old ABA territories was that the NBA refs were under some pressure to make sure the upstarts from the ABA wouldn't make it to the finals so soon.

    After the loss, thousands of fans (I think the estimate was 5,000) went to the airport to meet the Spurs plane and welcome them home--trophy or not. We swarmed out onto the field and Moe made a little impromtu speech. The pennies for his fine were collected in short order 'cause we all agreed we got jobbed. That was as close as Gervin or the old ABA bunch ever got to a championship.

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    The offensive was called by Jack Madden against Mark Olberding .
    I think it was John Vanak and not Jack Madden. It couldn't have been Jack Madden, because that game was called by Vanak, Jake O'Donnell, and Paul Mihalak. The description of the play is correct, I think.

    A few years ago, I went to a university library, poured through old newspapers and made copies of the boxscore of every Spurs playoff game from 1977 through 1996. For that game, my copy captured just a bit of the game story -- though I should go back and get the rest for the sake of building my own momentos. The bit of the Express-News story mentions a question about whether a player was set and seems to refer to Moe being irate about something that Vanak did. My recollection has always been that Vanak was the villian, but I'm willing to concede that my memory is based mostly on the bit of a newspaper story that I still have and some other things I recall reading and hearing.

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    Alan Bristow hit the biggest shot in Spurs history (until AJ's shot in Madison Square Garden) to win that series. That was the first Spurs playoff series win (ABA or NBA) of all time.
    I don't think it was Bristow, if you mean the Philly series in '79. Bristow played a total of 8 minutes in the last two games of that series, going 0-3 from the floor and 2-2 from the line (with the 2 makes coming in Game 6, which the Spurs lost in Philadelphia). Bristow started the first 5 games of that series and then fell almost completely out of Moe's rotation in favor of Mark Olberding, who started Games 6 & 7 against Philly and all 7 games against Washington.

    I think Mike Green actually made the last field goal of the Philly series in '79. According to the E-N account of that game:

    "Erving hit two free throws with a minute left, but [Mike] Green struck that long jumper from the left with 43 seconds remaining to up the margin to three. Dampier, the short man on the court, rebounded Bobby Jones' jumper from the lane and Gervin was fouled with 11 seconds left."

    San Antonio Express-News, Thursday, May 3, 1979.

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    I think it was John Vanak and not Jack Madden. It couldn't have been Jack Madden, because that game was called by Vanak, Jake O'Donnell, and Paul Mihalak. The description of the play is correct, I think.

    A few years ago, I went to a university library, poured through old newspapers and made copies of the boxscore of every Spurs playoff game from 1977 through 1996. For that game, my copy captured just a bit of the game story -- though I should go back and get the rest for the sake of building my own momentos. The bit of the Express-News story mentions a question about whether a player was set and seems to refer to Moe being irate about something that Vanak did. My recollection has always been that Vanak was the villian, but I'm willing to concede that my memory is based mostly on the bit of a newspaper story that I still have and some other things I recall reading and hearing.
    Odd. I'm willing to concede it may not have been Madden, but I have no recollection of Vanak doing that game at all.

    Do you remember (or have the proof) if the foul was on Paultz or Olberding?

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    Odd. I'm willing to concede it may not have been Madden, but I have no recollection of Vanak doing that game at all.

    Do you remember (or have the proof) if the foul was on Paultz or Olberding?
    Like I say, the boxscore says that the officials for Game 7 of the Washington series were O'Donnell, Vanak, and Mihalak -- if my memory serves, O'Donnell and Vanak were the officials on the floor and Mihalak was the alternate (since the NBA only used 2 game officials at that point)

    Madden called Game 6 of that series with Joe Gushue.

    I don't recall who the foul was on; I thought I had recorded one of the classic games rebroadcasts of that game -- if I did, I can't put my hands on the tape right now, unfortunately.

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    damn, you guys are old.

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    damn, you guys are old.
    I know there's a great comeback here along the lines of "and you are . . ." but it's just not coming to me.

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