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    stick and move dallaskd's Avatar
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    is this true!??!?!!

    wtf?!?!?!?

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    Big 12 wasn't represented on the committee. Big 10 and Pac 10 obviously were.

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    Unsigned #1 Draft Pick RonMexico's Avatar
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    Told you they'd have to win 2 in the B-12 tourney...

    "Inflated"??

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    Told you they'd have to win 2 in the B-12 tourney...

    "Inflated"??
    You were right, but that doesn't mean the committee was right.

    You can't make a solid argument for Tech over KSU.

    You can't make a solid argument for Old Dominion over Drexel.

    You can't make a solid argument for Villanova over Syracuse.

    And you can't make a solid argument for Stanford or Arkansas PERIOD. And Illinois is very shaky.

    Worst job by the committee that I can remember.

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    Unsigned #1 Draft Pick RonMexico's Avatar
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    Yeah, it was bad all around.

    I agree with all but ODU... I think Drexel over Villanova and no Stanford... Arkansas played their way with a trip to the SEC le game.

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    Yeah, it was bad all around.

    I agree with all but ODU... I think Drexel over Villanova and no Stanford... Arkansas played their way with a trip to the SEC le game.
    arkansas beat one good team on that road. 7-9 in a division that made the big 12 north look like the 1980s NFC east.

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    Yeah, it was bad all around.

    I agree with all but ODU... I think Drexel over Villanova and no Stanford... Arkansas played their way with a trip to the SEC le game.
    Arkansas still doesnt make sense cause they didnt beat a really good team to get to the SEC final, and they haven't really beaten anyone. Stanford is a joke...my regards to k-state fans. The Big 10 getting 6 teams is just stupid.

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    illinois sucks. how did k-state and syracuse miss it? i just do not understand it. tech had good wins but a bunch of bad losses. did the committee try to avoid the 21 point beat down the wildcats laid on bobby knights crew? Stanford is horrible. Villanova is shaky as . Tech is the most inconsistent team i know. Bobby Knight had alot to do with TTU getting in. I feel a major bias here.

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    air force beat tech by 14 and beat stanford at stanford by 34!!!! Theres politics in this.

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    It sucks that Air Force didn get in. I had them as one of teams to watch for. Syracuse beat Georgetown and still didnt make it! K-State was ed over for sure.

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    NO B12 representation and it showed. All B12 teams got screwed.

    Kansas will have to get through UCLA in San Jose to get to the FF.

    A&M has to play Louisville 60 miles from their campus in Lexington.

    Tech gets a hot Georgetown team.

    Texas gets stuck having to get by Georgetown and UNC.

    KState left out.

    Yuck.

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    NO B12 representation and it showed. All B12 teams got screwed.

    Kansas will have to get through UCLA in San Jose to get to the FF.

    A&M has to play Louisville 60 miles from their campus in Lexington.

    Tech gets a hot Georgetown team.

    Texas gets stuck having to get by Georgetown and UNC.

    KState left out.

    Yuck.
    The roads are tough, but you have to beat the best to be the best. I like UT's matchup against UNC, and I think AM will match up well with Louisville. The seeding definitely wasn't fair for any of the big 12 teams, but that's the way it goes. Here's to both UT and AM making the elite 8

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    A&M got screwed with the potential Louisville match-up. I don't feel sorry for Tejas or Tech, they are the lower seeds, it's supposed to be hard for them to get through their sections of the bracket.

    Man, K-State first team since the expansion to 64 teams to win 10 conference games and 20 games overall and not go to the dance. Also the only team in the history of the Big 12 to finish in the top 4 and not be invited to the dance.

    Then again, we're also the only school in the history of the BCS to finish in the top 4 of the BCS ratings and not be invited to a BCS bowl - so maybe we should be used to this by now.

    Well, I've been mad about this for 3 hours and I'm done now. Hopefully the Cats can take this and carry the Big 12 Banner to MSG in the Not Invited Tournament.


    I still say Arkansas!!!!! What the !?!?!?!?

    Even if I wasn't a K-State fan, this is still the worst job I can recall a committee doing. There justifications have been laughable and often hypocritical.

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    Not only was KSU left on the wrong side of the bubble, they weren't even mentioned by CBS as a bubble team not getting in.


    KSU got ass-raped. They should be used to it, though.

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    K-State got hosed.

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    I'm not saying I agree with Arkansas getting in, but I know why they did - they made it to the tournament final in an overrated conference with an overrated superstar ( akim Noah).

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    I think Billy Packer was on the selection committee - I've never seen so many "traditional" NCAA teams getting in even though they've had terrible years. Why CBS didn't even list K-State as a bubble team is beyond me (oh, wait - no it's not... they nut all over the Big 10/Big East/ACC). I'm seriously surprised they didn't find a way to sneak UConn in there. I propose that next year, teams like Niagra get a 15-seed and ing ty ass teams like Arkansas, UConn, Arizona, Kentucky, and Stanford all have to go to the play-in games for chances at a 16 seed.

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    I'm not saying I agree with Arkansas getting in, but I know why they did - they made it to the tournament final in an overrated conference with an overrated superstar ( akim Noah).
    I could agree with that more if they beat 3 top 10 teams to get there. But the only decent team they beat in their 3 wins was Vandy.

    K-State, by virtue of finishing 4th in the conference, didn't get an easy first round win, then destroyed a tournament team, then ran into Kansas in the semi-finals.

    If Arkansas had run into Florida earlier in the tournament, they would have gotten their ass kicked then instead of on sunday (and it could be noted that the Cats actually hung with the #1 seed that beat them).

    If K-State had been left out for teams like Syracuse and Drexel, I have very little issue with that. But for Arkansas and Stanford - that.

    , even Arkansas fans thought they had to win on Sunday to get in. Somebody from Razorback land was throwing around some serious BJs to committee members yesterday afternoon.

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    , even Arkansas fans thought they had to win on Sunday to get in. Somebody from Razorback land was throwing around some serious BJs to committee members yesterday afternoon.
    Sure did. Cause our coach and team blow ass.

    BJ? No. Thats called respect. Maybe if you new the history of Hogs Basketball you'd know.

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    Sure did. Cause our coach and team blow ass.

    BJ? No. Thats called respect. Maybe if you new the history of Hogs Basketball you'd know.
    I know the history of hogs basketball, I'll bet you don't know the history of K-State Basketball (hint: it's nowhere near what the past 9 years would indictate).

    Respect or not, if Arkansas won 20+ games and went 10-6 in the SEC west and was left out for a Big 12 team that went 7-9 in an equally 'perceived' weak division, but made a run in their conference tournament in which they beat one quality team, and got smoked by the other, you guys would be raising HOLY , and you know that.

    Not to mention that we had 3 common opponents this year - the Cats went 4-1 against them, Arkansas went 0-3.

    Bottom line - there are actually some arguments that can be made against K-State being in. Ultimately, you gotta win enough games so that you don't leave up to a bunch of nerds in a room who clearly watched as little college basketball as possible this year, especially over the past month+.

    So..forget K-State, forget "respect", but...when you stack the Razorbacks resume' up against about 8 other bubble teams, the fact that they got in is only bringing one word to mind - CORRUPTION. That's the only way that it makes any sense.
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    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    I know the history of hogs basketball, I'll bet you don't know the history of K-State Basketball (hint: it's nowhere near what the past 9 years would indictate).

    Respect or not, if Arkansas won 20+ games and went 10-6 in the SEC west and was left out for a Big 12 team that went 7-9 in an equally 'perceived' weak division, but made a run in their conference tournament in which they beat one quality team, and got smoked by the other, you guys would be raising HOLY , and you know that.

    Not to mention that we had 3 common opponents this year - the Cats went 4-1 against them, Arkansas went 0-3.

    Bottom line - there are actually some arguments that can be made against K-State being in. Ultimately, you gotta win enough games so that you don't leave up to a bunch of nerds in a room who clearly watched as little college basketball as possible this year, especially over the past month+.

    So..forget K-State, forget "respect", but...when you stack the Razorbacks resume' up against about 8 other bubble teams, the fact that they got in is only bringing one word to mind - CORRUPTION. That's the only way that it makes any sense.
    Not. Simply because I do not hold the B12 to any opinion that it is on the same level as the SEC. Further than that I don't want to argue there.

    Understanding is that Kansas State has good talent. They are and probably should have been there instead of Arkansas but as if they played State would win.

    Respect is that Arkansas given they had a good coach more or less an AD with half a nuetron in his brain firing would have stomped many teams this and last year. Stan Heath is nothing but a good recruiter or well established coach other than the head coach. He devised that Ronnie Brewer would have stayed this season, and with the SEC rookie of the year in Patrick Beverly and the well established post in Steven Hill who will get drafted, and Charles Thomas dominating. Everything really just fell apart.

    My personal take is that Arkansas was given respect at the SEC Tourny run and what could have been. ask Texas what would have happend given Brewer had stayed after the 1 point loss this year. Talent wise we are 2nd best in the SEC to only Florida. Just really bad coaching and decisions.

    Corruption although won't happen. It's sort of irony we play USC again this time on the court. If Thomas is healthy Friday we have them under control. Texas being our next game if we win is just deeper irony. As if they really want us to worry about only in the 2nd round given history to the Longhorns on the court vs the Hogs has been painful.

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