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brent barry hits threes.
I realize that it's just one loss after 17 wins, and we don't seem to have many chances to critique heir losses, soo..... Did any of our ST gurus that saw the game pinpoint the reason the mavs lost? Or was it just a bad game for the mavs? Nellie knowing the players and playbook too well?
The media seems to be blame it on the up-tempo game that GS played, if that is the case, Phoenix should be able to test that theory pretty well, shouldn't they? And if that is the key for other teams to beat the mavs, does Pop fall in love with small ball again? Should we go that route?
Personally, I think our best shot at beating the mavs is by playing SPURS BALL instead of trying to redefine ourselves again for the playoffs.
brent barry hits threes.
the biggest thing to focus on when playing against the mavs is easy
REBOUNDING
we got rebounded pretty much every game in the last series
without rebounding we'll be screwed as they'll be pullin down offensive boards and getting 2nd chance points all over the place
Golden State just went out and beat a team they were supposed to beat.
If SA does the same, they'll beat Dallas too.
Simple as that.
I didn't see the game but add it up and the combination of the following probably sealed the deal:
1. Nellie Tough
2. Nellie + Up-tempo team = Very tough
3. Nellie + Up-tempo team + at their place = Extremely tough
4. Nellie + Up-tempo team + at their place + 2nd night of b2b = Loss
It was a back-to-back for GSW too, they lost to Portland the night before on the road.
I don't think they were supposed to beat them, they just went out and did it.
I think if we can outscore the Mavs in 4 out of 7 games we'll beat them.
If we are playing Spurs ball, that is probably true, but GS was outrebounded by the mavs 50 - 28. mavs also had 20 offensive rebounds. Pop may look at that and say, "To heck with it, if we small ball we don't need the rebounds." (Actually I don't think pop is that obtuse, I hope)
This is a team that has been winning by what, 10 points a game, including on the road, in the new highscoring NBA, against coaches I believe to be better than Nellie. If it was a loss in a close game, ok, but the mavs seem to have been manhandled, there has to be something else there.
Last edited by Despot; 03-13-2007 at 02:01 AM.
Okay then, this excerpt from the Dallas Morning News game story... (Dallas, like San Antonio, doesn't do very well when they don't play D well.)
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...e.9288c14.html
Josh Howard, poked in the right eye in the second quarter, returned in the third but was ineffective.
Dirk Nowitzki was swarmed by Warriors whenever he touched the ball and had one of his poorest games of the season.
But the most unforgivable part of the game was at the defensive end.
Golden State center Andres Biedrins – not exactly the second coming of Shaq – made all eight of his shots from the field. Al Harrington (5-for-5) wasn't far behind. Jason Richardson had a strong all-around game and was one of three Warriors with seven assists.
Golden State was shooting 61.7 percent after three quarters and had five players with at least 16 points.
GS played small the entire game
plus gs shot 57% the entire night
if this was a 7 game series you aren't going to shoot 57% the entire time
I think people are making too big of a deal of this win as though the mavs exposed their weaknesses.
What this really was, is an example of a great team having an off night and an underdog coming to play
and while GS has had luck against dallas and been a thorn in their side, I think they simply have the right group of athletic players to play small ball and force dallas to keep up
but once again, a 7 game series between the two and dallas would win in 5
Nelson knows that Mavs team very well (like AJ knows Pop). He's the key to beating the Mavs! If the Warriors get the 8th seed... look out Mavs for a very, very tough series.
Last edited by Doghouse MD; 03-13-2007 at 02:46 AM.
GS still would have eeked out a victory if they shot 49-51%, even with Dallas shooting more FTs.
Hollinger :San Antonio (Latest daily rankings)
"Mavs may be the team to beat, in the regular season; but they still have yet to prove themselves in the playoffs. The Spurs have the experience, the defense, and Manu Ginobili. Good luck Mavs, you will need it"
Whoa Nellie... The master schools the pupil.
Why is a non-playoff team supposed to beat the number one team? Please explain your dumbass logic.
I would feel pretty good if I were MavFan at this point, with one exception...
Manu gonna be on a mof'n mission against you guys this year....to atone. That would bother me....
He holds himself responsible for the Spurs losing to ya'll last year, he doesn't buy in any way shape or form that ya'll were the better team...he's going to be out to prove it, IMO, like never before.
One loss in 18 games? Wow. 10 losses in 62 games? Sweet!
Easy question. Because they have beaten them twice already this year. The Warriors could get that #8 seed and eliminate Dallas too.
DaLoss Mavs are nothing to worry about. They're chokers, after all.
yeah! A division banner!
I hope the Spurs play the Mavs again on opening night next season just to see Mark Cuban procrastinate raising that thing to the rafters for the next game. I'm sure you all remember his reluctancy to raise the WCF banner this season.
The key to beating the Mavs? I'm going with one word:
CONFIDENCE
The Spurs have owned this Mavs franchise for years, and they only had one minor slip that allowed that team into the finals. The Mavs went because of one simple mistake -- a foul.
I truly think the Spurs will get past both the Suns and Mavs in the playoffs (after what seems like a beating over the Lakers in the first round for now). In fact, I want to play BOTH those teams on the way to the finals. When we get the chance to see the Mavs in a 7-game series, I, like many of you here, expect to see Manu absolutely explode.
If the boys can get the mindset once more that we own this Mavs team and it's time to get some redemption for last season, I truly believe that the Mavs don't stand a chance. I'll even go as far as saying the Spurs win in 5 (maybe 6 if we have a bad shooting night). It will be tough, of course, but I don't think the Mavs are strong enough to take down our big 3 and the veteran leadership that the rest of the core provides.
Dirk doesn't have the "killer instinct" that a team needs to win a ring.
If another team comes out of the West, it's the Suns. Nash has what it takes to win (that instinct and a cast of great support). But I think this may be the best Spurs team since '99...regardless of their current record. They are -- by far -- the smartest team in the league.
The Warriors just shot lights out and swarmed Dirk on D. The Spurs will need to make their open shots, and if yesterday's loss was any indication, the Spurs should double Nowitzki and make the others beat them.
NOw here I agree with you whott
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key to beat the mavs=hold Dirk to a low FG%
Last edited by ArgSpursFan; 03-13-2007 at 07:22 AM.
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