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Bill Walton also said he'd take PHX's D over Houston's.
Bill Walton says Nash is MVP after tonight. I agree.
Good job for Phoenix going out there and beating a team they were supposed to beat.
So, Dirk or Nash , MVP?
Bill Walton also said he'd take PHX's D over Houston's.
no, dirk still deserves it
That statement is invalid now, since Walton said it.
Dirk. Nash has yet to get this team over the hump in the playoffs and has won MVP honors for the past two years.
Dirk's team has been playing out of their minds this year and so has Dirk, while we're at it.
Gotta go Dirk here.
And I suppose losing in the Finals is considered getting over the hump? Based on how Stoudemire played tonight, Dallas wouldn't have stood a chance if Phoenix had Stoudemire in the playoffs last year.
Amare hit what 13 straight shots? They won by 2.
Neither has Dirk - getting his team over the hump.
Sorry, but it's the clutch plays by Nash is what everyone will remember. The Suns' last 10pts in regulation.. The clutch 3 to send it to OT.. Taking the charge after the turnover.. Bouncing the ball off of Terry out of bounds..
Dirk helped get his team over the hump in last year's playoffs. That hump was named the Spurs. This year, he's been using the other players around him more than ever before and sharing the ball better all while still putting up consistent double-doubles.
Nash should be remembered for using his free hand to shove off or hook every time he gets into the paint.
Time to put "Dirk for MVP" on hold. He hit the floor like a kid crying for ice cream. He missed shots and FT's that winners would make. Nash whipped him again. Time will tell, but for now? shut up.
Now is his chance to prove something, or fold.
Just thought I'd remind you that this is only one of 82.
If games between Phoenix and the Mavs are going to be the deciding point of the MVP vote then it's Dirk 2, Nash 1.
It's just a single regular season game. Anyone questioning Dirk's effectiveness and his ability to help his team to 60+ wins after a single game should Richard Jeni themselves (too soon?).
Both guys obviously have the potential to take the award, but it's asinine to base it off of a single game rather than the full body of work.
Let's not forget that Dustin Hoffman was also in "Ishtar". These things happen.
That's right, it is. But Mavs fans sure were talking it up when the Mavs were 2-0 against the Suns earlier in the season. Saying how much Dallas "owned" the Suns.
The fact is that these are two very evenly match teams.
Well, ignore the stupid Mavs fans that say like that.We won by two points last time -- hardly 'owning' your team, just like you won by two points tonight -- hardly 'owning' us.
But if your argument for MVP is all based on tonight, that's just a bit ridiculous.
On another note...
Tonight is one of those nights that stats people (which I must admit, I'm somewhat obsessed with stats) are proven so wrong. Dirks line is VERY similar to Steves (switch around the rebs/asts...steve had two more boards than dirk had assists, but he also had two more TOs than Dirk) but its obvious that Steve had a fantastic game, Dirk's game was apparently worthy of taking the MVP trophy that everyone had earlier professed was his away from him.
And anybody who wanted to make a case that Dirk has improved at defense probably doesn't have much to say tonight. It was really embarrassing seeing him go against Nash and watching Nash make THE EXACT SAME MOVE and THE EXACT SAME SHOT and watching it go in EVERY ING TIME.
Dampier played better one-on-one defense against Nash than Dirk did....that's really pathetic...
in all fairness, nash could make TD his
he is just an amazing and very creative offensive player and has an amazing touch around the basket
Yeah that's true....but it just really blew me away in the game when, after Dirk was getting owned one-on-one by Nash all game, somehow Dampier gets switched over and has to guard him....and right then i'm thinking "well put an automatic 2 points on the board for Phoenix" yet amazingly Damp stuck with Nash and forced a bad shot.....which of course made my jaw go crashing into the foundation of the house.
Dirk forced a couple of misses, he was matched on Steve way more though. You can't expect a 7 footer to defend Nash on the perimeter consistently, that's not what you should base the evaluation of his D. If anything is bad strategy.
Walton can say some dumb things, but he's one of the few that points out when team strategies work/fail. For example, he noted immediately something I've been saying since December: don't let Dirk go left. Raja Bell doesn't let Dirk go left, but Diaw and Marion do.
Marion got his stops tonight when he forced Dirk right. Look up my posts from months ago, but I will tell you that I've been saying this for a while and always wonder why one out of the Suns' gazillion coaches doesn't step up and tell Marion to change his defensive stance.
JET, on the other hand, prefers to go right, I think so you have to make him go left and not let him drift to the right side of the court.
Right. Thanks for proving his point. Tonight's game was almost a carbon copy of last year's WCF Game 6 (Suns jump out early, Dallas claws back and takes lead in 3rd). What was the difference tonight? Amare Stoudemire keeping them in the game and helping them get buckets inside (oh, and Nash scoring 10 points in 57 seconds).
The result in WCF: Mavs' 9 point win in Phoenix.
Result tonight: Suns' 2 point win in Dallas.
10 points in 55 seconds. MP3! MP3!
it's unfortunate for dirk, but i think nash got it last night. i think it's done.
after tonight, maybe, even though dirk was equally impressive in the dec. game with the last second game winning shot so they've both played a good game against each other...after april 4th, we'll see...if the mavs go up 3-1 on the suns, no
yeah you're right, they beat a team they were supposed to beat every other game by two points...they also beat a team they were supposed to beat last month by 16 points...good job suns
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