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    Does spurstalk have any millionaires?

    Being a millionaire just isn't the same these days


    NEW YORK (AP) -- Renee Weese has reached an enviable goal -- she's become a millionaire. But like many others whose net worth has risen in recent years to seven figures, she doesn't feel particularly wealthy.

    Not that long ago, the word "millionaire" conjured up visions of chauffeured limousines and extravagant shopping trips and elegant yachts. These days, a millionaire is more likely to be the guy or gal next door who saved carefully -- and perhaps benefited from the sharp run-up in housing prices -- but still worries about covering the exploding costs of children's educations, caring for aging parents and funding their own retirements.

    Weese, 51, of Atlanta, Georgia, credits her good financial fortune to good-paying jobs and windfalls when her startup insurance company went public and, later, when it was taken over by a bigger insurer. Still, Weese worries about how far the money will go.

    As she puts it: "I know I have more money than a lot of people do. But I don't feel I can sit back on my heels. I have lots of years ahead of me, and elderly parents I help financially a bit, and kids and grandkids."

    Reachable goal
    To people living paycheck to paycheck or who haven't saved much -- which is the bulk of the U.S. population -- a million dollars seems very far out of reach. But a growing number of Americans are ac ulating that amount and more. According to research from Merrill Lynch & Co. and the consulting firm Capgemini, some 2.9 million people in the United States and Canada have net worths of $1 million. The New York-based companies count all of an individual's financial assets except a primary residence.

    Atlanta financial adviser Micah Porter, who has worked with Weese, estimated that about 70 percent of the wealthy clients his Minerva Planning Group sees have earned their money by building successful businesses or saving from their salaries. The others inherited all or part of their wealth.

    But having that much money doesn't necessarily mean their financial concerns are over. He said a big worry is how long the money will last because "they've become used to a certain standard of living that may be difficult to support" when they stop working.

    And the fact is, $1 million doesn't go as far these days as it used to. For one thing, it's vulnerable to inflation -- someone who bought $1 million worth of goods in 1957 would need $7.3 million to buy the same goods today, according to Federal Reserve figures.

    It's also vulnerable to longevity. Americans are living much longer than they used to, and that means they need larger nest eggs to get them through retirement.

    Interestingly, it is workers' focus on saving for their retirement that leads Dan Sontag, an executive in the global private client division of Merrill Lynch, to predict that a growing number of Americans will achieve the million dollar milestone.

    He notes that many baby boomers -- those born between 1946 and 1964 -- have been contributing to company-sponsored 401(k) retirement plans and similar employer-backed programs for 25 years "and those account balances have mushroomed."

    In addition, many of these people also own homes that appreciated greatly in the boom market of recent years.

    "I think if boomers look at the numbers, between your 401(k) and your home equity, you may be a millionaire -- or pretty close," he said.

    But Sontag also understands that those who ac ulate that kind of money may not feel as if they've arrived on Easy Street.

    "Your father and my father had a guaranteed income stream from pensions," he said. "But today's retirees aren't guaranteed the income flow. They guaranteed a block of assets that they have to create the income against." That leads to uncertainty, he says.

    Not the same milestone
    Two baby boomer who recently hit the $1 million mark are Liz Pulliam Weston, 44, a personal finance expert, and her husband Will, 53, a professor at the Art Center College of Design in Pasadena, California. As she put it in a recent column on MSN.com, "the day my husband and I became millionaires was a lot like any other day."

    In fact, she said in an interview, she was updating her computer software and "like when a car's odometer rolls over, our net worth totaled out to seven figures."

    Weston described the milestone as "feeling neat," but she also drew several practical lessons from it:


    The average person may feel that $1 million is unattainable, but Weston points out that she ac ulated her cache "putting away a little of every paycheck no matter what."


    Hitting the $1 million mark doesn't mean you can stop saving. The couple has a daughter to educate and, with long-lived relatives in the family, a likely long-term retirement to finance.

    "On top of that, we have a pretty expensive lifestyle, living as we do in southern California," she said.

    But David Bach, author of "The Automatic Millionaire" and other financial advice books, points out that "99 percent of Americans don't have a million dollars -- and to them, a million dollars is a fortune." To the millions around the world who live on $1 a day or less, "it's unfathomable."

    His concern is that setting people up to think they can't have a good life or a comfortable retirement without that kind of money is counterproductive.

    "Take a baby boomer who has less than $50,000 in savings -- which is what the average baby boomer has -- and tell them they need $1 million, you might as well give them a gun and tell them to shoot themselves," Bach said.

    So while Bach believes $1 million is an achievable goal, especially for those who save persistently, he also believes it shouldn't be the only goal that's held out.

    "For most people, $50,000 to $100,000 more in savings would change their lives for the better," he said.

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/20/bus....ap/index.html

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    Spur-taaaa TDMVPDPOY's Avatar
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    when ur 55-65 << retirement age, 700k-1mill << superannuation + home equity sell off wont last you that much, but it can all work out if you can budget out ur living expenses...i think i can survive on 20-25k a year...

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    I come in Marklar. Marklar MM's Avatar
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    If I had a 1,000,000 (If I had a 1,000,000)
    I'd but you a house ( I would buy you a house)
    If I had a 1,000,000 (If I had a 1,000,000)
    I'd buy you furniture for your house ( maybe a nice chesterfield or an ottoman)
    If I had a 1,000,000 (If I had a 1,000,000)
    I'd but you a K-car ( a nice reliant automobile)
    If I had a 1,000,000, I'd buy you love

    If I had a 1,000,000
    I'd build a treefort in our yard
    If I had a 1,000,000
    You could help it wouldn't be that hard
    If I had a 1,000,000
    Maybe we could put a refrigerator in there
    Wouldn't that be fabulous!

    If I had a 1,000,000 (If I had a 1,000,000)
    I but you a fur coat( but not a real fur coat that's cruel)
    If I had a 1,000,000 (If I had a 1,000,000)
    I'd buy you an exotic pet(like a llama or an emu)
    If I had a 1,000,000 (If I had a 1,000,000)
    I'd but you John Merick's remains (All them crazy elephant bones)
    If I had a 1,000,000 I'd buy your love

    If I had a 1,000,000
    We wouldn't have to walk to the store
    If I had a 1,000,000
    We'd take a limousine cause it costs more
    If I had a 1,000,000 We wouldnt have to eat Kraft dinner

    If I had a 1,000,000 (If I had a 1,000,000)
    i'd but you a green dress ( but not a real green dress that's cruel)
    If I had a 1,000,000 (If I had a 1,000,000)
    I'd but you some art ( A Picasso or a Garfunkel)
    If I had a 1,000,000 (If I had a 1,000,000)
    I'd buy you a monkey (haven't you always wanted a monkey?)
    If I had a 1,000,000 If I had a 1,000,000 If I had a 1,000,000
    If I had a 1,000,000 I'd be RICH!

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    I abhor ugliness Vizzini's Avatar
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    "If I had a million dollars, I would do two chicks at one time, and I think I could make that happen, seeing as chicks dig a dude with a lot of money"


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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    "If I had a million dollars, I would do two chicks at one time, and I think I could make that happen, seeing as chicks dig a dude with a lot of money"


    "Watch your cornhole, Peter!"

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    Keith Jackson mookie2001's Avatar
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    jim is a millionaire, his sons all have new tahoes and he let them give their friends the old tahoes

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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    Yes...I would be happy.

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    Linger Ficking Good! CuckingFunt's Avatar
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    I'd be happy, but I wouldn't expect it to magically take care of all my financial issues forever and always.

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    License to Lillard tlongII's Avatar
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    Maybe Shoog will let me borrow a mil.

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    Millionaires don't like admitting to being millionaires.

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    Still Hates Small Ball Spurminator's Avatar
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    I don't know, but I'd be willing to be a guinea pig.

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    Maaaaaannnn fuck.... E20's Avatar
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    Having a million doesn't really do anything here in California. A decent house here is a million and now your broke because you wasted the million on a house. I made the biggest mistake, I played the lotto and didn't realize the jackpot was worth 7 million, what a waste of the dollar. 7 million isn't that much either in California either. Sure Buy a nice house for 6 million, waste like 400K on the stuff inside the house and like 90K on cars and your left 510K for the rest of your life. Not that much.

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    Having a million doesn't really do anything here in California. A decent house here is a million and now your broke because you wasted the million on a house. I made the biggest mistake, I played the lotto and didn't realize the jackpot was worth 7 million, what a waste of the dollar. 7 million isn't that much either in California either. Sure Buy a nice house for 6 million, waste like 400K on the stuff inside the house and like 90K on cars and your left 510K for the rest of your life. Not that much.
    Wages are high there as well, along with cost of living.

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    Masochist Rangers Fan Melmart1's Avatar
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    Having a million doesn't really do anything here in California. A decent house here is a million and now your broke because you wasted the million on a house. I made the biggest mistake, I played the lotto and didn't realize the jackpot was worth 7 million, what a waste of the dollar. 7 million isn't that much either in California either. Sure Buy a nice house for 6 million, waste like 400K on the stuff inside the house and like 90K on cars and your left 510K for the rest of your life. Not that much.
    Are you buying the house with cash? I mean seriously... take out a damn mortgage, invest the rest, start a new business venture... something to make the rest grow.

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    No More Pink NorCal510's Avatar
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    us teens dont know what mortgages are

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    I Am Jack's Smirking Revenge atxrocker's Avatar
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    And I am a millionaire.

    seriously? aren't you the one that made that what would you do with 300 dollars thread?

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    Making a million is one thing.

    Having a million as disposable income is another.

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    Spur-taaaa TDMVPDPOY's Avatar
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    plenty of taholes to go around with 1mill.....

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    Spur-taaaa TDMVPDPOY's Avatar
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    Making a million is one thing.

    Having a million as disposable income is another.
    disposable/residual income watever you wanna call it = n taxes = not much behind....

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    Maaaaaannnn fuck.... E20's Avatar
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    Are you buying the house with cash? I mean seriously... take out a damn mortgage, invest the rest, start a new business venture... something to make the rest grow.
    Yeah If I had a million and I was deciding to buy a house I would buy the house paid in full, I don't wanna be stuck with a morgtage for 26 years. Even though which I will in the future, I don't like the fact that I have to pay large bills every month or pay back people more money than I owe them and I'm way too lazy to start a buisness. Invest maybe, but I'm too much of a puss to invest my money when it could just be blown away and buying shares from all the good companies would be useless, they're too expensive and can their stocks rise any more? Sure, but it take a billion years for my money to double.

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    Maaaaaannnn fuck.... E20's Avatar
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    Also, to add on that I'm pretty sure I'd never play stocks or invest my money in anything. I'm just gonna rely on my job and the lottery.

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    A neverending cycle Trainwreck2100's Avatar
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    invest it at 5%

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    The Wheel Is Turning... shelshor's Avatar
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    I wouldn't be happy with the $mil per se, but with what i could do with it after I pay off those thieving SOBs at the IRS for their share
    Then pay off the mortgage, do some home repairs and painting, buy us each at least one new car, diversify some investments and call up Qantas for a 3 month vacation in Australia and New Zealand

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    Believe. Xolotl's Avatar
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    I'd be happy with $20 and a bucket of chicken

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    Veteran AFBlue's Avatar
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    Yeah. My family has the money. I have like 2 grand.
    Then you aren't a millionare GiG...you just get a few crumbs from the pie.

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