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Sorry to hear about that.
I can't stand the number #1 of my favorite football team.
I know that in "Spurdom" the guy means next to nothing, but "Crazy Ray" died earlier this week. For those of you that don't know him, he is the man that was always seen at Cowboys games .. Dressed in full Cowboy regalia, including big hat and "#1" big finger.
He was a sort of unoffical mascot for the Cowboys and concidered to the the "Number one" fan of the boys.
Why do I gring this up? Simple. We at the office today were talking about whether he should he allowed to join the Ring of Honor (This is where the Cowboys enshine their best)
I saw a thread about the Spurs "Number one" fan ... Have to admit, never seen him ... anyway ... Should it be possable for a fan to reach such a level as to recognized by his team in such a way? Retire a name instead of a number?
I am sure that the Spurs have such a thing ... Do they have someone that could deserve such an honor?
Announcers are retired (Chick, I think, Is in the Lakers rafters .. for instance).
Can a "Number one" fan be promoted to "Ring of Honor" status?
Sorry to hear about that.
I can't stand the number #1 of my favorite football team.
So far, is there anyone in the ring of honor that is not a player or coach?
Just curious.
No - it's ridiculous. Just because somebody goes and dresses up and is loud - it doesn't mean anything to the success and history of a franchise. It's a sideshow.
Let's get Drew Pearson in there first.
There are others, but all have been with the Cowboys in some capacity (GM / President / Owner / Player ... That sort of thing.
Could or even should a #1 fan be elevated?
The Kings have retired #6 in honor of their fans.
Four different NBA teams (Celtics -- Johnny Most; Lakers -- Chick Hearn; Sixers -- Dave Zinkoff; Sonics -- Bob Blackburn) have retired a microphone in honor of a play-by-play guy, too.
I dont think they should, it woul set a precedent.... Knicks would do e Lee, Lakers would do Jack Nicholson, Billy Crystal for the Cubs (or whatever his baseball team is).... you get the picture.
This was brought up at work too. I don't think that those people are the #1 fans of thier teams, e, Jack and Billy get air time because of who they are, not because of their ... Fan-hood.I dont think they should, it woul set a precedent.... Knicks would do e Lee, Lakers would do Jack Nicholson, Billy Crystal for the Cubs (or whatever his baseball team is).... you get the picture.
You forget that in "Spurdom" there are tons of Cowboys fans.I know that in "Spurdom" the guy means next to nothing,
The Knicks also have 613 hanging in the rafters for the number of wins for Red Holzman.
I feel the same way, but if they did want to honor him they could put his name or something somewhere in the stadium. But not ring of honor status.
Amen. And let's hope he doesn't have to wait until he's near death to get in - like Bob Hayes did.
Yes.Let's get Drew Pearson in there first.
Let's also get Bullet Bob into the HOF.
Ahhhhhhhh yessssssssss...................."Bullet Bob!"
NFL forum.
They turned it into a NFL forum thread, I asked if a fan could be in the class of honored athletes for a team.
I can't think of anyone for the Mavs (Every team has a guy similar to the "Mavsman") and very few in other sports that have "earned" the recognition (Maybe a "Hog" in Washington ... or maybe a sausage in Milwakee)
The Coyote
The Miami Heat retired Jordan's 23 a while back. wtf is up with that?
As big of a fan Crazy Ray was, nope, I don't think he should be included. The Ring of Honor is supposed to be sacred ground for Cowboys legends. Maybe Jerry Jones can name a small section of seats in Texas Stadium after him?
No, I don't think they should put Ray in the Ring of Honor. I used to see Ray at games when I was a kid at the Cotton Bowl. I loved seeing him. No Ring of Honor, though.
I do think that Jerry Jones and the Cowboys organization could have done more to help him and his family when he was ill. Other concerned fans contributed money and helped him keep his home during his illness since Ray was not a wealthy man, monitarily. The Cowboys org. may have done some things behind the scenes that the public is not aware of. Supposedly, the Cowboys are going to have a public recognition for Crazy Ray and I think that is the least that they should do.
Memorial Service http://www.dallascowboys.com/news.cf...C91DF79748E632
imo they should just dedicate a stand somehwere in the stadium in his honor....
There are ways to honor someone like Crazy Ray or our original Coyote or any team's fan who becomes strongly identified with the Team via TV(The Minnesota Viking guy comes to mind) but not on the same level as players.
How many of you remember the Spurs' Dancing Harry or the pseudo-Blues Brothers or any of the other fans who entertained us over the years? They were great fun but shouldn't be commemorated in the rafters with the likes of Gervin, or DROB and the other retired greats.
It just takes some imagination on the part of the franchise.
Ring of Honor=No fans
He was fantastic to watch and hear that whistle he has
They could put up a plaque or something in a seat or by the field
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One Last Texas Stadium Smile For Crazy Ray
Mickey Spagnola - Email
DallasCowboys.com Columnist
March 24, 2007 5:01 PM
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones speaking at Wilford
IRVING, Texas - They came in all shapes and sizes, some in upscale SUV's and some in pickups and beaters.
They came in all colors, some in their Sunday best and others in their best game-day casual.
They were of all ages, some old enough to have squeaky wheels and some young enough to whine without repercussion.
Just people, your everyday people feeling the need to not only pay their respects, but to smile one more time at Texas Stadium thanks to the memories of the man who generated generations of smiles world wide.
They came because of Ray.
Wilford "Ray" Jones.
Crazy Ray.
Nearly 300 strong found their way to the Stadium Club of Texas Stadium Saturday morning for what was called a memorial for Ray Jones, whose ailing body ran out of life a week ago Saturday. They said this was going to be a memorial service, yet the hour turned into a fitting celebration of this man's 76-year-old life (Jan. 22, 1931-March 17, 2007), a life long enough to touch so many far and wide.
"He loved people of all ages," said the former voice of Texas Stadium Murphy Martin, "from tiny tots to the people who owned the suites in the upper decks . . . and he loved his Cowboys."
There were family members there, including his wife of 53 years Mattie. Friends. Former Cowboys players such as Calvin Hill and Robert Newhouse. Cowboys officials, including Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and wife Gene. Pat Summerall was there, as was John Wooten, the former Cleveland Browns offensive lineman who led the way for Jim Brown during his heyday and went on to become a Cowboys scout and director of pro personnel.
And then there were just people - Cowboys fans - like the guy feeling the necessity to wear his old white Cowboys T-shirt still sporting the signature Crazy Ray gave him years ago.
For as Newhouse proclaimed, "This is fan day," and certainly no one needed to point out Crazy Ray was the team's biggest fan, having begun attending games some 43 years ago back in the Cotton Bowl when he first became known as "Whistling Ray," that vendor who would make those high-pitched whistling shrills while tossing bags of peanuts behind his backs to customers who would become a budding fan base.
The morning was punctuated by the appearance of Zema Williams. You might not know him as Zema Williams, but you would recognize his unmistakable Indian head dress and red outfit as the man who became sort of Ray's counterpart, the Washington Redskins mascot.
Few probably knew because of their theatrical sideline tussles during those Cowboys-Redskins games they were fast friends, Crazy Ray and Chief Zee. But they were, the Chief telling of his first trip back in the old days to a Cowboys-Redskins game at the invitation of Ray that he initially declined.
"No Ray," Zema first said, "I ain't coming down to Texas with those people riding around with shotguns."
But he came, and told the story of how Ray arranged for an airport roundup, men dressed up carrying toy guns to apprehend Chief Zee in the terminal and take him directly to Texas Stadium. Zema never checked into a hotel, he said, because at the insistence of Ray and Mattie he spent the weekend at the Jones house.
"Ray always told me, 'Look out for the children because that's the people of tomorrow,'" Zema recalled.
And at that, Chief Zee removed his coveted headdress, and as was their custom he said for the losing mascot after games, he put on a Cowboys cap in tribute to his buddy and screamed in the best rendition of Crazy Ray, "Cowboys!"
He received a standing ovation. Only in the name of Crazy Ray could a Redskin be truly cheered at Texas Stadium.
Hill recalled his 1969 arrival with the Cowboys, and at the time, as he pointed out, there was no Texas Stadium, no Cowboys Cheerleaders and no Super Bowl trophies.
"But there was a Crazy Ray," Hill said of the man who made such an impression on millions, especially children with his magic tricks and uncanny ability to turn blown up balloons into laughable creatures.
And the former Cowboys running back and current player development consultant was living proof of those impressions, recalling the time he and his wife brought young son Grant to see him play for the first time, all dressed up in daddy's No. 35 Cowboys jersey.
So on the way home after the game, Calvin asked his wife Janet how'd Grant enjoy the game, and she said somewhat hollowly, "He had a good time."
Well that wasn't the answer daddy was looking for after such a good game, and Calvin said he tried again a few minutes later: "What he think when I scored the touchdown?"
"Calvin, I hate to burst your bubble," she said apologetically, "but all he cared about was the vendors and Crazy Ray."
Ray didn't, though, just make an impression on people, and especially all those little kids he would visit at local area children hospitals or the elderly whiling away the days in retirement centers, but he made an impression on the nation's biggest game played in the most prominent of leagues.
Jerry Jones has said many times he does not own the Dallas Cowboys, but that's he's "just getting a chance to carry the ball, to husband it a while." But he went as far to point out, "I'm here to talk about owner Ray Jones, and boy did he weigh in on the tradition of the Dallas Cowboys."
He recalled a conversation he had with former NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue, having discussed the league's tradition and business, and Jones said of Crazy Ray, "We are celebrating an icon . . . the purest amateur as the NFL has ever seen. He was here as a fan."
Or as neighbor and friend Wayne Walker pointed out, "(Ray) wasn't for pay."
And so the morning went, nearly an hour of smiles and laughs, interrupted with a few tears, shed not for Ray, but shed by these people of all walks of life for themselves, knowing they had lost a friend, even if they only knew Wilford Jones as merely Crazy Ray. For they knew he had made them smile.
And he did so one last time, thanks to the video tribute that played not only on the many TV monitors inside the Stadium Club, but also on the video boards in an empty Texas Stadium - Ray's smile lighting up the screen as everyone was given a stroll through memory lane thanks to Cowboys TV producer Roxanne Medina.
Five decades of Cowboys football, from black and white shots at the Cotton Bowl to the color of Super Bowls and Texas Stadium, Ray Jones was there for it all, and as the pictures bounced from year to year, the strong voice of Louis Armstrong sang Wonderful World in the background:
The colours of the rainbow, so pretty in the sky
Are also on the faces of people going by
I see friends shaking hands saying how do you do
They're really saying I love you
I hear babies crying, I watch them grow
They'll learn much more than I'll ever know
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world
Yes I think to myself, what a wonderful world
Yes, and one made just a little more wonderful by a man affectionately known as Crazy Ray.
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