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nash allows as most points scored against him when playing against other pgs, thats a n huge weakness in his game, yet that didnt stop him winnin 2 mvps, where dirk who gets bash for not playin defense...
he left tony parker drop 235 points on him?
nash allows as most points scored against him when playing against other pgs, thats a n huge weakness in his game, yet that didnt stop him winnin 2 mvps, where dirk who gets bash for not playin defense...
Wasn't Nash guarding Bowen most of the evening? Seriously, now you're just nitpicking... Yeah, he's an "anticipation" defender, playing you for the charge or steal, and sure, he lacks lateral quickness to stay with most PGs, but he's tough, he sticks his nose in there, tries and tries again. He could be worse. He could not try at all.
If the Suns lose a game, typically it isn't because Nash couldn't defend his opponant. Sometimes, but rarely. However, when they win, it's largely his doing. It's truth and can't really be debated. Whether or not that earns him another MVP is up to the voters. Personally, I don't think he gets it. Whatever. I don't think Nash cares, either.
apparently mo as never heard of a joke before.....
Sure I have. I've heard of you before...
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i am officially a fillmoe fan
The last time the Spurs met the Suns in the playoffs, Nash guarded Parker (who wasn't nearly the finisher he is now) and got absolutely mauled. Parker is a better defender now, although I don't think the stats will show it, and Nash hasn't picked his D up at all. If Nash tried to D up TP at any point, it's going to be an easy layup or feed in the lane for the Spurs.
The fact that the Suns are forced to put their 2 time MVP on the Spurs weakest offensive driving threat should say something about the quality of his defense.
No one who's so liable should ever win 3 MVP awards.
and God forbid Nash ever have to guard somebody a little bigger than him. Bigger guards get an automatic 2 points on him every time down the court. Nash is easily the worst defender in the NBA that gets any significant playing time (Dirk is almost as bad but there are stretches in every game where he plays solid team defense).
And Amare's defense isn't any better than Nash's. Amare thinks that getting 2 or 3 blocks is great defense even if he gave up 30 points and didn't even bother putting a body on whoever he's guarding in the post.
And this is just hilariousTNT s up so much on their broadcasts it's embarrassing. It's good that they've got EJ, Kenny, and Charles to fall back on - those guys make Thursday nights on TNT must watch TV for me. A couple weeks ago when they busted Charles for coming to work in shorts and sneakers was classic.
It was amazing how easily Duncan (on two good ankles) humiliated Amare. Have you ever seen a "dominant" post player look so lost on defense?
When a game goes to overtime, why can't TNT cut away a show the other game in the local market instead of Spurs/Suns fans having to wait to see the end of the previous game?
They do that with the NFL all the time don't they?
If NBA were to include defense into the MVP equation, it would be Duncan who'd be the MVP(or at least Kobe) not Dirk
I'm pretty sure TNT is contractually obligated to show all of the game at first and then the other one. Plus, with the East being wide open like it is, I think a lot of people (coughBullsfans) were interested in that game last night. It was big for the playoff seeding. Almost always, an overtime game with playoff implications is more entertaining from an unbiased fan's standpoint than the 1st quarter of another game.
Since suns signed Nash, suns are 4-11 against SA, including 1-6 in San Antonio (2-4 since those playoffs, including 0-3 in SA). Home court advantage could be a big factor, and now the lead is down to 2 and we just lost the tie-break.
Yeah, Nash only had to guard Parker when Marion went out with his 4th foul (on a very suspect call) in the 3rd. Parker is one of the quickest guys in the league, so it's not a surprise that Nash can't hang with him too well and TP scored 15 of his 35 in the 3rd. However, Parker probably averages the most points in the paint among PGs in the league, so it's obviously not just Nash who gives it up to him.
Jackass.
And Amare needs to take a lesson or two from Kurt Thomas about defending your man before he gets the ball. KT would push Duncan at least 5 feet further from the basket than Amare before TD even touched the ball. It's just a classic example of young, athletic guys thinking their physical gifts will win out every time. I like Amare but he wasn't really doing on the offensive end, so he needed to pick it up defensively and you can't play team defense when you're letting Duncan catch the ball 2 centimeters from the basket.
who lost the tie-break?....
suns
"San Antonio is a way better defensive team than Dallas is," Phoenix's Shawn Marion said.
And Dallas is a way better defensive team than Phoenix is. I don't even see why he's bringing the Mavericks into it. It's not like the Suns are going to meet up with Dallas in the playoffs.
Be careful what you wish for fellow Maverick fans -- San Antonio is way better than Phoenix when it comes to playoff basketball. In two weeks everybody starts over at 0-0. We were one dumb foul by Ginobili from getting sent home last year. And we shot 80% from the floor in the first half in Game 7 - that's unheard of. Don't count on that happening again. I'd rather face Phoenix. Those last two wins against us are fool's gold. San Antonio is the more dangerous team.
Lost in all the 2-time MVP talk is the fact that Dallas is MUCH BETTER OFF without him than they ever were with him. When the Lakers traded Shaq away for 60 cents on the dollar, they went from elite to middle of the pack. Dallas took Nash's salary slot and signed Erick Dampier and they got better. Nash fits in well in Phoenix, but it was hardly a blunder for Dallas to let him go. As for strengthening a fellow conference team, they had no choice over his destination
I think it may be some kind of record or something...
he left tony parker drop 235 points on him?
along with a pretty good coach. is that Nash's fault?
RonMexico, good points about both Nash and Amare. BTW, did you catch JHO's stat line the other night when Dirk sat out for the game? I was hoping you would log on so we could *discuss* this little matter!
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