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    Would you trade Dice K and Jeff Franceour for Chase Utley and Gil Meche?

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    Only if there are minor leaguers attached.

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    Only if there are minor leaguers attached.
    Their points don't count towards our weekly totals do they?

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    How many times do you really think Meche is going to have a solid performance? I know he did well this week but I still think overall that he is crap, but Utley is hard to pass up considering there aren't a lot of good 2nd basemen. I have him on my fantasy team and no way I would give him up.

    Tough choice. Who do you have at 2B now?

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    Their points don't count towards our weekly totals do they?
    VALUE!

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    Utley and a pitcher better than Meche... yes. This trade, no.

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    Utley is the best player in that deal from a fantasy standpoint because of his unique production as a 2B. Matsuzaka had a wonderful first start, but I'm not sure that we can conclude yet that he's more valuable (either in a real world sense or a fantasy sense) than Utley. Given what Francouer did last year, he's a fourth outfielder (most likely) in a 12-14 team league; Meche is a 4th or 5th starter in such a league.

    If I'm getting Utley and Meche for Matsuzaka and Francouer, I know I'm getting the best player in the deal without giving up much that's actually proven. I'd think harder if it was a keeper league -- and harder still if it's a keeper league that doesn't build in salary inflation from year-to-year. But generally, if you can get a guy who is legitimately a 1st round pick who is the best at his position (like Utley) while giving up guys that aren't the best at their positions, you've made a really great deal.

    Said differently, I wouldn't trade Utley to get Matsuzaka.

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    How many times do you really think Meche is going to have a solid performance? I know he did well this week but I still think overall that he is crap, but Utley is hard to pass up considering there aren't a lot of good 2nd basemen. I have him on my fantasy team and no way I would give him up.

    Tough choice. Who do you have at 2B now?
    Dustin Pedoria. I'm very weak at 2nd base.

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    I have him on my fantasy team and no way I would give him up.
    I couldn't believe how far he dropped. I had him number four or five on my list and I was praying you didn't pick him.

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    I accepted the trade. Hope Dice K doesn't turn into Pedro Jr.

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    It is a keeper league, so it was harder for me to part with Dice K than it would have been in any other league.

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    Meche might put up decent numbers, but wont give alot of wins due to the Royals suckiness.

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    Meche was a filler. He won't be in my starting rotation when Jered Weaver gets healthy.

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    I couldn't believe how far he dropped. I had him number four or five on my list and I was praying you didn't pick him.
    Yeah, I was amazed he was still there at pick 11. How on earth can you pass that up? I didn't even have to think about who to pick at that point.

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    I accepted the trade. Hope Dice K doesn't turn into Pedro Jr.
    Although I think Matsuzaka is the real deal, there are better pitchers. There is nobody better at 2B than Utley and though Pedroia has potential, I would never have him as my everyday 2B. In fact, I picked him up in my league but for backup purposes cus he can play SS as well.

    I think you did good.

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    well crap if Weaver replaces Dice K, then this is a fantastic trade.

    Dice K could implode, he could get hurt.

    Utley is a more proven commodity.

    Nice trade

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    How did you manage Pedoria for Ray?

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    Dude needed a second baseman. Pedoria has a bunch of upside in a keeper league.

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    Value, as JB likes to say.

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    Kinsler > Pedoria

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    Utley>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kinsler

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    Utley>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kinsler
    Not in week 1

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    Jesus, how many trades am I going to do tonight?

    TEXAS BOYS
    ·Howard, Ryan 1B PHI
    ·Penny, Brad SP LA
    ·Ramirez, Aramis 3B CHC
    The Pinoy Pounders
    ·Sowers, Jeremy SP CLE
    ·Wright, David 3B NYM
    ·Zambrano, Carlos SP CHC

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    Jesus, how many trades am I going to do tonight?

    TEXAS BOYS
    ·Howard, Ryan 1B PHI
    ·Penny, Brad SP LA
    ·Ramirez, Aramis 3B CHC
    The Pinoy Pounders
    ·Sowers, Jeremy SP CLE
    ·Wright, David 3B NYM
    ·Zambrano, Carlos SP CHC
    Man, thats gay. He is givin you way better deals than he is me and I am tryin to actually help the guy out.

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    I don't really want to give up Wright and Zambrano. I'd be very weak at pitching without Zambrano, now that I gave up Dice K. And Wright is younger and better than Ramirez. I may have to do this one though.

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