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Yeah, because, the offense is the same without Tim as it is with him....yes, TD wasn' there, but to go the final 7 minutes without an FG or whatever it was, and to have absolute dumb plays at the end of it was quite disheartening.
a) Devin Harris, we have absolutely no answer for this guy
and
b) 4th quarter execution in crunch time
yes, TD wasn' there, but to go the final 7 minutes without an FG or whatever it was, and to have absolute dumb plays at the end of it was quite disheartening.
I'm happy we gutted it out even after Tim left, and I probably feel better about our chances moreso than ever, but I have a bad feeling that if its a tied game with 2 minutes left in the playoffs the Mavs might be the ones walking away with the W 9 times out of 10 in those types of scenarios.......even with TD on the floor
Yeah, because, the offense is the same without Tim as it is with him....yes, TD wasn' there, but to go the final 7 minutes without an FG or whatever it was, and to have absolute dumb plays at the end of it was quite disheartening.
Without Tim, they play the shooters. Simple as that.
I'm just happy there's someone on here that wants to talk about game/matchup specifics instead of whining or gloating about a meaningless game.
Just as the Spurs don't have anyone that can guard Harris, the Mavs don't have anyone that can guard Parker.
I'm just glad there's a thread without a post from a Mavs fan trying to change the subject...
yeah i'm already sick of the moral victory rant and all that. I'm still more concerned with matchups and how we look against our biggest rival this late in the season. I don't care to whine about joey crawford or whatever.
and yes, while the team is much different without TD, i refuse to believe not ONE player could hit an FG or pick up the slack when it mattered. I mean 7 minutes in the fourth without an FG? Like the AP article said, the Spurs have only themselves to blame. Yes, TD's loss hurt, but if anything, we should dug deep instead of getting outscored 10-19 thanks to the MIA play of parker, manu, finley, and barry
I refuse to believe the rest of the team is that bad on their own without TD that they commit idiotic turnovers in crunch time (though it has been a trend this season) and can't even buy a bucket or have the knowledge to take it to the rim instead of resolving to outside shots for a team that really has no mid range game despite what you read in the paper.
Having said all this, I'm very very pleased with our rebounding effort.
They didn't even have to do that. We went to a lineup at one point of
Tony
Manu
Elson
Oberto
Bowen
That killed us. We were playing two on five on offense. That's a new low, even for Pop. Where's Bonner? Where's Horry?
Well, now we know what the Spurs would be without Duncan: a jumpshooting team. They settled way too much for jumpers. Honestly, we could have still won that game had we drawn up plays to open up the lanes. Instead, we have Parker and Ginobili settling for fadeaway jumpers over Dirk Nowitzki. That's not exactly the type of offense that wins you games in the clutch.
Now in the playoffs? I would expect better execution. The Spurs would have dumped into Duncan and worked from there. Had the Mavs doubled? Duncan would have passed it out and a wide open man would have been found and a higher percentage shot would have been shot. Had the Mavs not doubled? Duncan would have a great opportunity to score. Our defense was good; however, our offense ed us over. I wouldn't worry about it too much unless you see the same thing happening in the playoffs with Duncan on the floor-against ANY team. Not just the Mavs.
Pop plays two bigs and still can't win.
I maintain that Devin Harris, although a difficult cover, is not as unstoppable as he appears to be.
He scored 19 of his 21 points when guarded by Vaughn and Parker was on the bench. The other two points were on an intentional foul and he converted the free throws.
unfortuantely this is Finley's second bad shooting game in a row.10-19 thanks to the MIA play of parker, manu, finley, and barry
Barry?
What else do you expect.
i would have liked to have seen at least some bonner in the 4th.
I know y'all see many more Spurs game than I do, but Oberto always seems to play fairly well vs. the Mavs. He impresses me much more than Elson does but like I said, I haven't seen a lot of Spurs games.
I would say Devin and Stack. Both of those guys played very well.
Devin can be hit-or-miss, though. Sure he's got that quickness, but there are some nights where he simply can't buy a basket. He'll never be effective against the Spurs in a series if he's continuously in go-go-go mode. He's better as a change of pace-type guy.
It's scary to see how good Manu can be late in a game. He does manage to get a lot of calls (that's not a complaint, just part of his game and particularly good in a 4thQ), but has the knack to get good looks and knock them down when it matters.
Mavs were outrebounded and outplayed inside almost the entire game. Dampier would have helped with that, but it's still disconcerting to see this team settle for outside shots when the chance to be aggressive and drive inside would help them more.
But I must say - it was good to see a very good game today. I think we've all been a bit bored with the last 2 weeks and having the season wind down.
This site has been up for what, for years now? You'd think that you'd have at least learned SOMETHING about basketball by now.
Pop plays two bigs and still can't win.
Oberto and Bonner are really interchangeable when it comes to defense and rebounding, but unlike Osucko, Matt can actually shoot the damn ball.
Tpark, you are hopeless.
I think the only team Barry cares to show up against is the Suns
otherwise you're right, he's quickly becoming useless when it matters
I don't post very often, but I have to say NO!! We have something the Mavs do not have. And that my freind in Manu. He simply will not allow us to lose in big game situations. Is he perfect? No. But he is a fighter and will do everything in his power to make sure we have a legit chance to win a game. Mark my words come playoff time, WE WILL NOT LOSE.
I have so much confidence in the Spurs. And yes I live in San Antonio, but ....well I really can't put it into words. It's a sort of swagger that will make everyone wonder why they doubted the Spurs to begin with. Will we steam roll over everyone? No. But we will win the championship. And that one little series the Mavs had handed to them last year will go down as there greatest accomplishment.
I'm not re ed. The Mavs are a va team. But they are not a championship team. IMO, neither were the Heat. I think the Mavs caught us a little off gaurd last year and took us to the brink and pulled out what will be there greatest series, EVER. So many of you may look at this and think, what a homer this guy is. That mat be true but the Spurs WILL NOT be caught off gaurd this year.
I'm not the type of person that would come onto these boards and laugh and joke about how better than you we are. I will acknowledge a great series. But MY team and MY town will be celibrating this years championship on the Riverwalk. The trophy will be where it belongs. Home.
oh and the warriors.I think the only team Barry cares to show up against is the Suns
otherwise you're right, he's quickly becoming useless when it matters
dont forget those pesky warriors.
and the trailblazers
Uh, no they arent.Oberto and Bonner are really interchangeable when it comes to defense and rebounding
Bonner is a terrible defender, and rebounding they are CLOSE to equal I'll agree on that.
What's painful to watch is that without TD in the game, the Mavs defenders could afford to pack the middle and challenge Ginobili and Parker when driving.
I was pleased with Elson's effort but he is just not a large threat for offensive rebounding and putbacks.
Oberto! Other than setting screens out top, I just did not see a whole lot from him today (although, I did miss some portions of the game).
I hope barry finds his rhythm after being absent!
Devin Harris had a good game -- tough to stop the Mavs when he is on!
Devin was nowhere until that Spurs series last year. He had an unbelieveable series and he and Howard (scoring/rebounding) and Stack's bench points are what kept them in and eventually won the series. But I haven't seen anything like this since that series last year either from him. He's lacked total confidence in his jumper (although supposedly improving) and I figured they'd back off him and make him a non-factor in the playoffs. Well, this wasnt the playoffs.
Maybe they'll take notes and realize he hasnt done this much this season and learn to make him take those shots he doesnt want to take. Getting the bigs to run back a little faster when he's out there would help. He had TP mentality basically, if he can get upcourt faster than the bigs, he's taking his man to the rim. They take that away from TP and everyone else in the playoffs, so, it's not that big of a deal for me.
Harris did most of his damage pushing the ball not in the half court. Spurs were lazy getting back in the second quarter. They also got hurt by turnovers and misses at the rim coming back at them. they'll have to be careful with the ball and get back like they do against the Suns.
They are called The Big 3. Not The Big 2.
Nothing worries me about this game.
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