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    My question:

    Will this suspension hurt the Spurs and especially TD in the playoffs? Will all of Joey's fellow refs seek revenge, either subtly or more obviously during a close playoff game?

    I have to think that they will be pissed about the treatment of one of their brethren because of TD's blowing the whistle about Joey's fight question.

    I hope I am wrong.

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    I think there will be toooo many eyes on the refs during the playoffs for that to happen.

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    I don't think anybody liked Crawford, including his fellow refs.

    If some asshole ed up in your office with a client, would you wold it against the client? nope.

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    It's like that scene in "Wizard of Oz" when Dorothy melts the witch and she thinks the guards are going to lay the smack down. Instead they praise her.

    "Hail to Duncan. The wicked ref is dead."

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    You think the Mavs are winning it all anyway, Jim. So it doesn't matter

    Just kidding, I don't think the refs will hold it against Tim or the Spurs.

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    The Spurs didn't have anything to do with Joey's punishment.

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    My question:

    Will this suspension hurt the Spurs and especially TD in the playoffs? Will all of Joey's fellow refs seek revenge, either subtly or more obviously during a close playoff game?

    I have to think that they will be pissed about the treatment of one of their brethren because of TD's blowing the whistle about Joey's fight question.

    I hope I am wrong.

    I hope you are, too, but I fear that you are right. It is human nature for the refs to react poorly, and let's face it...thre is SOME sort of contact that could be called a foul on almost any play... my expectation is that Tim is going to be watched like a hawk and called for the slightest infraction...there will be contact...they won't make it up..but they will call things that they would normally let go. Then it will be up to Tim how he reacts to it...and let's be honest again, here...Tim is capable of taking himself mentally out of games by getting so out of sorts with the refs. It is going to be an interesting playoff series.

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    Look,

    I doubt that there would be more bull calls than last years with Mavs.

    I still remember Bowen saying in front of Stern how terrible the calls were.

    Refs. costs us 2 games last year. In games with difference of less than 4 point, refs can change the outcome.

    Above all, I am a basketball fan. I love Euroleague, Olympics, Arg. League, Spanish league etc. So I can said that I am not very biased ( Not totally objective but more than most Spurs die hard fans. )

    Gus.

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    Nostradamas Jr.
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    I hope you are, too, but I fear that you are right. It is human nature for the refs to react poorly, and let's face it...thre is SOME sort of contact that could be called a foul on almost any play... my expectation is that Tim is going to be watched like a hawk and called for the slightest infraction...there will be contact...they won't make it up..but they will call things that they would normally let go. Then it will be up to Tim how he reacts to it...and let's be honest again, here...Tim is capable of taking himself mentally out of games by getting so out of sorts with the refs. It is going to be an interesting playoff series.
    This is what I mean, they can get revenge and not make it look obvious at all. TD can get 2 fouls in 1st Q and then the Spurs will probably lose because he will be on bench and ineffective the rest of the 1st half. They can repeat the 2 fouls in the 3rd Q, and then you can forget winning a close game, especially on the road..

    Frankly, this worries me.

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    This is what I mean, they can get revenge and not make it look obvious at all. TD can get 2 fouls in 1st Q and then the Spurs will probably lose because he will be on bench and ineffective the rest of the 1st half. They can repeat the 2 fouls in the 3rd Q, and then you can forget winning a close game, especially on the road..

    Frankly, this worries me.

    I see you're already building an excuse for when the Spurs lose in the 2nd round.

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    I think that Phil Jackson will want to add an asterisk to the Spurs le this year is all.

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    My question:

    Will this suspension hurt the Spurs and especially TD in the playoffs? Will all of Joey's fellow refs seek revenge, either subtly or more obviously during a close playoff game?

    I have to think that they will be pissed about the treatment of one of their brethren because of TD's blowing the whistle about Joey's fight question.

    I hope I am wrong.
    Duncan did nothing wrong. JC ed up and said what he said you can't blame Duncan for that. I think Stern has sent the message to the refs to behave themselves. If anything this will force the refs to watch themselves even more out of fear the same thing will happen to them.

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    It shouldn't really matter anyway but I don't think we will. I think we will, however, see a pissed off Spurs team.

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    I see you're already building an excuse for when the Spurs lose in the 2nd round.

    What round will your Blazers go out in this year?

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    It's not like Crawford got Cubanized.

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    What round will your Blazers go out in this year?


    I don't think the refs will do anything extra. They're already under close observation, it would seem

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    Maybe the Spurs get just the opposite from the refs.


    Read this

    http://mvn.com/nba-endofthebench/200...her-nba- le/

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    My question:

    Will this suspension hurt the Spurs and especially TD in the playoffs? Will all of Joey's fellow refs seek revenge, either subtly or more obviously during a close playoff game?

    I have to think that they will be pissed about the treatment of one of their brethren because of TD's blowing the whistle about Joey's fight question.

    I hope I am wrong.
    I honestly don't think so. Stern made an example of JC and sent a message to the other refs. That message would be to check your ego at the door. The refs will be under a microscope now and even if they do, Stern will doing something asap. I think if anything, its more the union vs. Stern. Not necessarily the Spurs. If the refs do something, it will be throughout the league. So, every team would be penalized. I doubt they do anything though....

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    Maybe the Spurs get just the opposite from the refs.


    Read this

    http://mvn.com/nba-endofthebench/200...her-nba- le/
    I think I prefer that considering the other possible outcomes (ie, screw the spurs or business as usual )

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    My question:

    Will this suspension hurt the Spurs and especially TD in the playoffs? Will all of Joey's fellow refs seek revenge, either subtly or more obviously during a close playoff game?

    I have to think that they will be pissed about the treatment of one of their brethren because of TD's blowing the whistle about Joey's fight question.

    I hope I am wrong.

    Every ref currently officiating knows what happened to Crawford after he booted Nelson from a playoff game in 03. I am sure the other officials saw this coming.

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    Duncan did nothing wrong. JC ed up and said what he said you can't blame Duncan for that. I think Stern has sent the message to the refs to behave themselves. If anything this will force the refs to watch themselves even more out of fear the same thing will happen to them.
    Duncan acted like an ass. He didn't deserve to be ejected for acting like an ass, but he very clearly did act like an ass.

    The propriety of Tim's behavior on Sunday, though, doesn't have very much to do with whether Crawford's suspension is justified in my mind. Stern seems to have acknowledged that even if Tim was acting like an ass, Joey's obligation was to walk away from the situation unless that was somehow impossible. Very clearly, it was possible for Joey to have walked away, but, instead, he chose to mkae the situation about him and his feelings.

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    Vote: Should Joey Crawford have been suspended?

    Thank you for voting. See below for the results from across SportsNation.

    Your responses in bold text below.


    Click here for the latest on the reaction to Crawford.





    1) Was the NBA right to suspend Joey Crawford?


    88.9% Yes

    11.1% No


    2) Was Crawford right to eject Tim Duncan?


    90.7% No

    9.3% Yes


    3) What would be the appropriate punishment for Crawford?


    48.6% Suspended through playoffs

    18.6% He should be fired

    13.9% Suspended for remainder of regular season

    8.6% Suspended through playoffs and part of next season

    7.5% A warning

    2.8% Nothing


    4) Do NBA referees have too much control over a game's outcome?


    78.8% Yes

    21.2% No


    5) Do you believe NBA referees hold personal grudges against certain players?


    72.9% Yes, but only a handful of bad refs

    18.4% Yes, most all of them

    8.6% No


    6) Who would win in a fight?


    89.2% Tim Duncan

    10.8% Joey Crawford


    Total Votes: 8,415

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    No, I dont think the refs will want to subtly call plays on the Spurs because this was meant as a warning to all of them. Duncan will probaly learn to mask his emotions once he faces a call he doesnt like. But its not like he wasnt good at it before. Cause when he got a call he didnt like, automatic whiner.

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    Inagra....that sig is brilliant!

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    I kind of shudder to think what will happen in the playoffs now. I know refs are under a lot of scrutiny as it is, but now EVERY game will be dissected with an electron microscope by analysts. Due to the fact that Duncan "won" this confrontation, every goober who attends a playoff game is going to think he can have sway over the ref.

    Watch the first questionable call (especially in the WC) result in absolute pandemonium. Boos will rain from the heavens like water during a hurricane.

    I hope all the good refs realize that they need to stay assertive. I don't want a bunch of passive refs, too scared to make a call for fear of being reprimanded.

    Note that this is a worst-case scenario. I doubt it will happen like this. But it could, and that bothers me.

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