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    **EDIT: If you would like some additional info on the writer of this piece, please refer to Chump as he has decided to do an indepth study of Rev. Perterson's personal and professional career. Thanks for your hard work CD.


    Say a hurricane is about to destroy the city you live in. Two questions:

    What would you do?

    What would you do if you were black?

    Sadly, the two questions don't have the same answer.

    To the first: Most of us would take our families out of that city quickly to protect them from danger. Then, able-bodied men would return to help others in need, as wives and others cared for children, elderly, infirm and the like.

    For better or worse, Hurricane Katrina has told us the answer to the second question. If you're black and a hurricane is about to destroy your city, you'll probably wait for the government to save you.

    This was not always the case. Prior to 40 years ago, such a pathetic performance by the black community in a time of crisis would have been inconceivable. The first response would have come from black men. They would take care of their families, bring them to safety, and then help the rest of the community. Then local government would come in.

    No longer. When 75 percent of New Orleans residents had left the city, it was primarily immoral, welfare-pampered blacks that stayed behind and waited for the government to bail them out. This, as we know, did not turn out good results.

    Enter Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan. Jackson and Farrakhan laid blame on "racist" President Bush. Farrakhan actually proposed the idea that the government blew up a levee so as to kill blacks and save whites. The two demanded massive governmental spending to rebuild New Orleans , above and beyond the federal government's proposed $60 billion. Not only that, these two were positioning themselves as the gatekeepers to supervise the dispersion of funds. Perfect: Two of the most dishonest elite blacks in America , "overseeing" billions of dollars. I wonder where that money will end up.

    Of course, if these two were really serious about laying blame on government, they should blame the local one. Responsibility to perform legally and practically fell first on the mayor of New Orleans . We are now all familiar with Mayor Ray Nagin the black Democrat who likes to yell at President Bush for failing to do Nagin's job. The facts, unfortunately, do not support Nagin's wailing. As the Washington Times puts it, "recent reports show [Nagin] failed to follow through on his own city's emergency-response plan, which acknowledged that thousands of the city's poorest residents would have no way to evacuate the city."

    One wonders how there was "no way" for these people to evacuate the city. We have photographic evidence telling us otherwise. You've probably seen it by now the photo showing 2,000 parked school buses, unused and underwater. How much planning does it require to put people on a bus and leave town, Mayor Nagin?

    Instead of doing the obvious, Mayor Nagin (with no positive contribution from Democratic Gov. Kathleen Blanco, the other major leader vested with responsibility to address the hurricane disaster) loaded remaining New Orleans residents into the Superdome and the city's convention center. We know how that plan turned out.

    About five years ago, in a debate before the National Association of Black Journalists, I stated that if whites were to just leave the United States and let blacks run the country, they would turn America into a ghetto within 10 years. The audience, shall we say, disagreed with me strongly. Now I have to disagree with me. I gave blacks too much credit. It took a mere three days for blacks to turn the Superdome and the convention center into ghettos, rampant with theft, rape and murder.

    President Bush is not to blame for the rampant immorality of blacks. Had New Orleans ' black community taken action, most would have been out of harm's way. But most were too lazy, immoral and trifling to do anything productive for themselves.

    All Americans must tell blacks this truth. It was blacks' moral poverty not their material poverty that cost them dearly in New Orleans . Farrakhan, Jackson, and other race hustlers are to be repudiated for they will only perpetuate this problem by stirring up hatred and applauding moral corruption. New Orleans , to the extent it is to be rebuilt, should be remade into a dependency-free, morally strong city where corruption is opposed and success is applauded. Blacks are obligated to help themselves and not depend on the government to care for them. We are all obligated to tell them so.

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    The Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson is founder and president of BOND, the Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny, and author of "Scam: How the Black Leadership Exploits Black America
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    Huh?

    And this guys calls himself a man of God?

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    How long did it take you to find this article from 2005?

    Did you also read the one where Peterson calls Islam an evil religion ?
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    How long did it take you to find this article from 2005?

    Did you also read the one where Peterson calls Islam an evil religion and says all muslims hate America?
    Perhaps I didn't get the memo. Are we suppose to check in with you before posting anything here?

    I've never seen the piece personally nor have I seen it posted here.

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    How about the time he claimed John Kerry stated a support for slavery reparations?

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    I retract the "all muslims" characterization like the AP did. Oddly enough FoxNews didn't update their reprint of that story.

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    How about the time he claimed John Kerry stated a support for slavery reparations?
    How about the time I posted an article about Katrina and you decided we needed a rundown of the writers complete life works.

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    How about the time I posted an article about Katrina and you decided we needed a rundown of the writers complete life works.
    So you were or were not familiar with these statements?

    Were you familiar with the assault charges he brought against Jesse Jackson that he lost in a jury trial?

    Some background is interesting.

    If you don't want to know anything about the source of an article you posted and apparently like, keep scrolling or put me on ignore.

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    So you were or were not familiar with these statements?

    Were you familiar with the assault charges he brought against Jesse Jackson that he lost in a jury trial?

    Some background is interesting.

    If you don't want to know anything about the source of an article you posted and apparently like, keep scrolling or put me on ignore.
    Once again, I could care less about the guys life works. I read the article and thought it was interesting. If you wanna keep investigating the guys background be my guest.

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    Huh?

    And this guys calls himself a man of God?

    And if he's right?

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    Once again, I could care less about the guys life works.
    Then quit whining about my posting it.

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    Then quit whining about my posting it.


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    Huh?

    And this guys calls himself a man of God?
    Please inform us which part of the original post is
    incorrect. Thank you.

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    And if he's right?
    About what?

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    Please inform us which part of the original post is
    incorrect. Thank you.

    That even if he were right about some of the people impacted by Katrina... he shouldn't be casting judgement on them. He shouldn't have come out to say that.

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    That even if he were right about some of the people impacted by Katrina... he shouldn't be casting judgement on them. He shouldn't have come out to say that.
    No different than the being said about the Government.

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    That even if he were right about some of the people impacted by Katrina... he shouldn't be casting judgement on them. He shouldn't have come out to say that.
    The reason so many black people are where they are is because no one will stand up and tell it like it is. Black leaders have every right to cast judgement on their own people - and Rev Peterson is dead on!

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    No different than the being said about the Government.

    No... they were blaming the Government's efforts as if they had anything to do with the decisions of thousands of people who blatantly ignored commands to head out of town.

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    The reason so many black people are where they are is because no one will stand up and tell it like it is. Black leaders have every right to cast judgement on their own people - and Rev Peterson is dead on!

    I happen to believe Peterson is partially right. But again no one has a right to cast judgement over anyone else.

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    He's right, African Americans in the Lower 9th who depended upon public transportation to get everywhere should have suddenly come up with the means to buy cars, gas them up, and drive them to safer parts of Louisiana. Really, they shouldn't have expected that the state or local governments would provide public transportation to those who had no realistic means for escaping the city on their own.

    In advance of such a storm, officials expected evacuation to be only half successful. According to the Pam scenario, only a third of the population would leave New Orleans before the storm hit. This was a recognition of the city's poor population, with upwards of 100,000 living in households in which no one owns a car.
    Hurricane Pam Summary

    In that sense, it's fair to blame Mayor Nagin for his inep ude. But, as the Pam simulation demonstrates, the federal government was well aware of the catastrophic consequences that would follow from a major hurricane striking New Orleans. When it became apparent, very quickly after the storm hit, that things were bad, the federal government's response was woefully inadequate.

    And, frankly, it's their own damned fault that almost 10% of the population of New Orleans lived in such impoverished conditions. It couldn't have had anything to do with underfunded and underperforming schools, a culture that relegated many African-Americans to menial jobs at best, and encouraged welfare dependence to either supplement meager incomes or to provide an income in the first place. They have only themselves to blame, then, for having ended up in the squalor of the Superdome and the N.O. Convention Center.

    It's pretty easy to think that anyone can be upwardly mobile in our society. The truth of New Orleans during and after Katrina shows, I think, that the sort of abject poverty that Katrina revealed deprives a great many of that opportunity. Blaming their immorality for the tragedy visited upon them strikes me as rather unseemly, particularly from someone who claims to be a Christian.

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    Please inform us which part of the original post is
    incorrect. Thank you.
    I never said it was incorrect (even though I do feel is racist and full of , with very little truth in it). I just implied that a it is not written in the language men of God should wright.

    The fact he has written other pieces, which chump brough to our attention, which seam to be more political manifestos than pieces written by a clergyman, makes my point even stronger.

    But since you asked, ray, let me quote some phrases and you can tell me if you agree with them.



    For better or worse, Hurricane Katrina has told us the answer to the second question. If you're black and a hurricane is about to destroy your city, you'll probably wait for the government to save you.
    Do you see the racist that lives inside the Reverend poking its ugly head?



    When 75 percent of New Orleans residents had left the city, it was primarily immoral, welfare-pampered blacks that stayed behind and waited for the government to bail them out.
    So poor people with very little means are all immoral? Nice going Reverend.



    About five years ago, in a debate before the National Association of Black Journalists, I stated that if whites were to just leave the United States and let blacks run the country, they would turn America into a ghetto within 10 years. The audience, shall we say, disagreed with me strongly. Now I have to disagree with me. I gave blacks too much credit. It took a mere three days for blacks to turn the Superdome and the convention center into ghettos, rampant with theft, rape and murder.


    So ray, nothing wrong with this comment?



    President Bush is not to blame for the rampant immorality of blacks. Had New Orleans ' black community taken action, most would have been out of harm's way. But most were too lazy, immoral and trifling to do anything productive for themselves.


    Way to generalize, Reverend!

    Try to defend the Reverend again, and you will look like an idiot.

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    and Rev Peterson is dead on!
    Not suprised at all you would support a racist person hiding behind God like this Peterson fellow.

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    **EDIT: If you would like some additional info on the writer of this piece, please refer to Chump as he has decided to do an indepth study of Rev. Perterson's personal and professional career. Thanks for your hard work CD.
    Actually he did us a favor. The article was bad enough but the other he's been writting gives us a good picture of where this dude stands on on some important issues.

    So do you, like crookie, think the guy is dead on?

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    Not suprised at all you would support a racist person hiding behind God like this Peterson fellow.
    Umm? The Reverend is black.


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    black people can be racist too. we're all human, snake, and i take offense at your implication that black people aren't.
    Never said black people can't be racists.

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