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    Luck is Evil Phil Hellmuth's Avatar
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    might have to do with the homecourt advantage tho.

    1.4 to 1 odds for spurs (every dollar u bet on spurs, you win $1.40 if they win series)

    go to vegas or online and make your bets.

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    It has to do with who is placing bets. That's all.

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    locked in with SA winning the Western Conf @ +252

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    can we bet our vbookie money?

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    Luck is Evil Phil Hellmuth's Avatar
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    It has to do with who is placing bets. That's all.
    not entirely true.

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    better yet, just send me the money and I'll go to the casino for you

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    might have to do with the homecourt advantage tho.

    1.4 to 1 odds for spurs (every dollar u bet on spurs, you win $1.40 if they win series)

    go to vegas or online and make your bets.
    A common practice in Vegas is the Vegas oddsmakers determine the odds and open it to some selected professional gamblers to allow them to make bets against those original odds. Vegas will change the odds or leave them the same depending on how the professional gamblers bet. The resulting odds are released to the general public. I'm guessing you're right about the homecourt advantage making the Suns a slight favorite though. The early "smart money" is on the Suns for what it's worth.

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    At one on-line book, SA is +140 and Pho is -160. Since the book needs to make a commission on the bet, the "real" odds probably SA +150 and Pho -150. Thus the early "smart money" thinks that if this series were played over and over, SA would win 40% and Pho would win 60% or to simplify, Pho would win 3 times out of every 5 that this series were played.

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    I agree with what you said, but also SHARP money (bets made almost hours or minutes before tip off) also are crucial can alter lines dramatically at times. These are the sneaky pro gamblers who play fiddle to vegas.

    P.S the suns are favorites to win le (2.65 to 1) according to vegas as well.

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    not entirely true.
    Are you suggesting that Vegas has a rooting interest? My explanation was perhaps oversimplified, but still true.

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    Are you suggesting that Vegas has a rooting interest? My explanation was perhaps oversimplified, but still true.

    Vegas gambles sometimes as well. Sometimes some games have 85% of bets on one side and the line will remain concrete. The juice will be heavier and if the other team wins its extreme pay day for sportsbooks.

    but what you said had some truth to it, but just not all the time.

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    I agree with what you said, but also SHARP money (bets made almost hours or minutes before tip off) also are crucial can alter lines dramatically at times. These are the sneaky pro gamblers who play fiddle to vegas.

    P.S the suns are favorites to win le (2.65 to 1) according to vegas as well.

    and basketball lines can be manipulated more easily than football lines.

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    Vegas gambles sometimes as well. Sometimes some games have 85% of bets on one side and the line will remain concrete. The juice will be heavier and if the other team wins its extreme pay day for sportsbooks.

    but what you said had some truth to it, but just not all the time.
    So it's the rule, but not the exception.

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    So it's the rule, but not the exception.

    the purpose of pointspreads is to make sure the bookmaker gets enough action on both sides of a bet. if public opinion isn't reasonably balanced, then a disporportionate amount of money would be bet on one side of a game. Now, that would force bookmakers to gamble, and they aren't in business to gamble like that.

    His job basically is to 'hold the money' and charge a fee (vig or juice) for that service. He will adjust the lines to get an acceptable amount of money risked on both sides of a bet. Not an 'equal' amount, that rarely if ever happens. so in a sense, Vegas does 'gamble'.

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    z Yeah!

    Last edited by The Brazilian BLURR; 05-03-2007 at 06:46 PM.

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    Nice Sig!!! ^

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    With the Suns having homecourt, this series is close to a coin flip. The Spurs athleticism will be on full display. If they are a step slow, the Suns will run them out of the building.

    Game 1 will tell a lot.

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    With the Suns having homecourt, this series is close to a coin flip. The Spurs athleticism will be on full display. If they are a step slow, the Suns will run them out of the building.

    Game 1 will tell a lot.
    I keep going back & forth on this series. My gut tells me the Suns will win but my head (that knows the history) tells me the Spurs will win. Should be a great series either way.

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    The Spurs will sweep. Book it.

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