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    Wish I could post this back during his stripclub scandal to compare notes.

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    With respect, this is the wrong question. It should be worded "Would you want Jax back if it meant Tony or Manu would have to leave?"

    All things considered, he is an asset. If I could have Jax back in place of Beno, the yeah.

    If his new contract in 2004 had forced out Manu or Parker, the no.

    I'm quite the opposite of a contract expert; maybe Jax, Manu, and Parker all could have stayed on the roster together. Someone please clarify.

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    i think duncan would take a considerable pay cut hahaha

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    With respect, this is the wrong question. It should be worded "Would you want Jax back if it meant Tony or Manu would have to leave?"

    All things considered, he is an asset. If I could have Jax back in place of Beno, the yeah.

    If his new contract in 2004 had forced out Manu or Parker, the no.
    I'm quite the opposite of a contract expert; maybe Jax, Manu, and Parker all could have stayed on the roster together. Someone please clarify.
    True.+remember that He was gone in 2003,and them we won the 2nd ring in 2005,with Brent Barry as a 2nd shooting guard,and Manu playing out of his mind in the playoffs.

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    All BS aside, would you really want SJax back?
    YES.

    Next.

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    Spurs could have had SJax, Manu, Parker, Duncan and Bowen and would have won the championship every year since '03.

    So, uh, yeah I wish the Spurs hadn't gotten cheap and scared that he'd turn into Jaren.

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    Who wouldn't want that back? I knew the Jackatar would bring good luck for the first round. Now lets hope it brings luck for the second and at the very least the Spurs make it past the Suns. Golden State has already made their dent in the playoffs.

    Props to Shoogar and of course the O.G. of SJackatars -- MI21

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    With all due respect, I'm sure the Warriors win just goes to show how short our memories are. When SJax got charged with during the stripclub fiasco, many forum members couldn't help but mention how glad SJax wasn't with the Spurs anymore. You're only as valuable as your last act I guess.

    Make no mistake. Jackson has always been a fearless individual. A great quality at times, a severe flaw at others. I hope he has straightened out, because it's that version I would love to have back.

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    I still want SJax back. This is a re ed question.

    Like timvp said, we could have won every Championship since '03 had he been on our team.

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    And none of that other club would have happened if he had been in SA under Pop.

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    Nellie is the best coach for Jack. Watching him this series there is no way that his wild and undisciplined ways, playing and interacting with the refs, that he could exist in a disciplined system like Pop's. So really, no it wouldn't work. He was relatively on good behaviour here but then he had success and he doesn't feel that need to behave and his self-destructive tendencies are always boilng beneath the surface, waiting to explode.

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    Most teams that know basketball would want him. Only stupid fans that hate wouldn't want him. And the people of Michigan. Jackson has been great most of his career and those fans deserved to have their ass kicked and if someone tries to run you over you should shoot their ass. Maybe Jackson can be Shaq's deputy when he retires.

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    Great thread and an even better question. I've gone over this many times ever since he left. I've always followed his progress at Atlanta, Indiana and Golden State and after all these years and careful consideration I must say that I'm glad the Spurs let him walk. He is the ultimate example of "CAN"T GET RIGHT". He has a great game but the guy has never gotten his head on straight. He was suspended in Atlanta for conduct detrimental to the team. He got the big money that he desired in Indiana where he promptly joined in the now famous Malice in the Palace brawl. He was then traded following his wild shooting incident at the strip club during training camp. Couple this with ejections in two of the playoff games in Dallas (both losses) and I have to say his behaviour issues outweigh his playing ability. I seem to recall that the Spurs offered him $10 Mil over 3 years to stay. He turned it down for, I believe, 1 mill for a year in Atlanta. I heard that after many games in San Antonio his teammates had to constantly talk to him to raise his spirits as he would slip into strange depressive funks following games (wins and losses). My understanding is that they tired of this after a couple of years and weren't broken hearted when he turned down the Spurs offer. I also seem to recall that a portion of his salary was used to re-sign Manu. S-Jax has flashes of brilliance but I don't think he could have survived in an organization as dedicated to structure and conformity as San Antonio. Sorry for the lengthy reply but as you can see I've spent alot of time pondering the "what could've been" aspects of Port Arthurs own Stephen Jackson.

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    No thanks. I'll take character guys over head cases any day.

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    Spurs could have had SJax, Manu, Parker, Duncan and Bowen and would have won the championship every year since '03.

    So, uh, yeah I wish the Spurs hadn't gotten cheap and scared that he'd turn into Jaren.
    I can't really think of anything to add. Perfect take.

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    Only morons think he is a head case. He just got bad agent that would have him take one million to go to Atlanta.

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    Yes. I think he didnt do anything bad when he was with the Spurs.

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    Sure I'd take him back. So what?

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    The Pacers would be in the playoffs if they had not been involved in one of the worst trades ever. Sjax saved Northern Cali basketball for now. When is his contract up?

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    Only morons think he is a head case. He just got bad agent that would have him take one million to go to Atlanta.
    No really, he's a head case.
    Living in Indy, I've seen enough of his antics to last a lifetime.

    Props to what he and his team accomplished in the Mavs series though...he did a great job, and I'm happy for him...maybe he can make a clean start in Oakland and get his life headed in the right direction.

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    , my history must be off...

    I thought Jax took LESS money and left San Antonio...

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    If GS makes it to the WCF to meet the Spurs and SJAx starts raining 3s on us, I wonder how many of us would want him back then.

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    Only morons think he is a head case. He just got bad agent that would have him take one million to go to Atlanta.

    You're right Mike. SJax is a model citizen.


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    The Pacers would be in the playoffs if they had not been involved in one of the worst trades ever. Sjax saved Northern Cali basketball for now. When is his contract up?
    Well, the Pacers are in the Eastern Conference. A lot of undeserving teams made it into the playoffs. Maybe the Pacers would've been one of them, but that wouldn't guarantee a playoff victory, and it doesn't mean that team didn't/doesn't need to wipe the slate clean and start over to make a better team in the long run.
    Perhaps, in the end, the Pacers and Sjax will be better off.

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    Great thread and an even better question. I've gone over this many times ever since he left. I've always followed his progress at Atlanta, Indiana and Golden State and after all these years and careful consideration I must say that I'm glad the Spurs let him walk. He is the ultimate example of "CAN"T GET RIGHT". He has a great game but the guy has never gotten his head on straight. He was suspended in Atlanta for conduct detrimental to the team. He got the big money that he desired in Indiana where he promptly joined in the now famous Malice in the Palace brawl. He was then traded following his wild shooting incident at the strip club during training camp. Couple this with ejections in two of the playoff games in Dallas (both losses) and I have to say his behaviour issues outweigh his playing ability. I seem to recall that the Spurs offered him $10 Mil over 3 years to stay. He turned it down for, I believe, 1 mill for a year in Atlanta. I heard that after many games in San Antonio his teammates had to constantly talk to him to raise his spirits as he would slip into strange depressive funks following games (wins and losses). My understanding is that they tired of this after a couple of years and weren't broken hearted when he turned down the Spurs offer. I also seem to recall that a portion of his salary was used to re-sign Manu. S-Jax has flashes of brilliance but I don't think he could have survived in an organization as dedicated to structure and conformity as San Antonio. Sorry for the lengthy reply but as you can see I've spent alot of time pondering the "what could've been" aspects of Port Arthurs own Stephen Jackson.

    Thanks for this lengthy answer. I've been wondering how all this went down and why Jackson moved on. You've explained it perfectly.

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