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    ...'small ball'? I guess AHF was too drunk to post last night.

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    Same place as all of the threads recognizing Brent Barry's +15 last night, I guess.

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    When the Spurs run smallball for the entire game against a team with two seven footers on the floor and start to hemorrhage points in the paint, surrender rebounds and lose games, you'll hear complaints.

    When Duncan starts to stand there with his back to the basket for 10-12 seconds waiting for a double team that never arrives while his teammates stand around waiting for something to happen and the offense completely grinds to a halt, you'll hear complaints.

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    When the team does not perform, you'll hear complaints.

    When the team wins, those who complain will celebrate.

    It's a win-win for them.

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    Same place as all of the threads recognizing Brent Barry's +15 last night, I guess.
    I know Barry didn't play well but....that one three he made seemed to take the lid off the basket and that seemed to change the game....as small as the shot seemed.

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    I know Barry didn't play well but....that one three he made seemed to take the lid off the basket and that seemed to change the game....as small as the shot seemed.
    The reason was that the lineup on the court checkmated the Suns' new defensive scheme.

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    Manu or Fin...I forget
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    Too much ability to drive and shoot on the perimeter for the Suns to defend.

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    The reason was that the lineup on the court checkmated the Suns' new defensive scheme.

    TP
    Barry
    Manu or Fin...I forget
    Bowen
    TD

    Too much ability to drive and shoot on the perimeter for the Suns to defend.
    Isn't it amazing how changing lineups for specific situations and short stretches works better than just throwing five guys on the floor together for the first time and asking them to play out of position for an entire series?

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    Small ball and 4 down won?

    IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Isn't it amazing how changing lineups for specific situations and short stretches works better than just throwing five guys on the floor together for the first time and asking them to play out of position for an entire series?
    Speaking of topics that might deserve their own threads . . . it's the second consecutive Game 3 in which Pop has made a subs ution decision in the late 3rd/early 4th that the opposing coach didn't respond to quickly enough.

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    Nah, let's play two bigs for the entire game because 'that's what got us here'. Yep.

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    Pop made a good coaching move?

    I mean, come on, this is just madness your talking.


    Hes not capable of it.

    Im sure all of this Aggie will explain was due to the greatness of Manu and PJ on the bench.

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    and pop made an adjustment at half and bench elson the entire second half

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    Nah, let's play two bigs for the entire game because 'that's what got us here'. Yep.
    "For the entire game"? Um, Elson had about five times as many minutes last night as Rasho and Nazr had in the last five games of the playoffs.

    And just to remind you, the Spurs lost that series.

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    If there was a way to go back and watch what the plus minus on having small bal in there, that would be great.

    Small ball at the end of the 2nd quarter and all of the second half is what won the game!

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    If there was a way to go back and watch what the plus minus on having small bal in there, that would be great.

    Small ball at the end of the 2nd quarter and all of the second half is what won the game!
    So that automatically makes small ball the perfect way to run every situation, even introducing it to a team that isn't familliar with it during a playoff series! Genius! Maybe the Jazz will take a page from that and put Okur and Boozer on the bench against the Warriors. It's so simple: Just bench Elson and Oberto and the Spurs will win the championship just like they did last year!

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    Keep advocating "what got us here" and don't adjust.

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    Keep advocating "what got us here" and don't adjust.
    Um, benching the centers last year and not adjusting when the Spurs were giving up points in the paint was a lack of adjustment. Using smallball in stretches where it puts the other team on their heels has been great this year. What got us here this season is not the same as what got us here last season.

    I guess if you repeat the same thing for long enough, it finally looks like you knew what you were talking about all along. You're finally a genius, T Park. Congratulations.

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    ah personal shot, congrats for being like everyone else.

    Amazing how small ball is used quite a bit in the Denver series, and now this series its just being used "a little"

    yet alot of games during the season where the spurs won or come from behind to win due to small ball were "flukes" or whatever.

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    The reason was that the lineup on the court checkmated the Suns' new defensive scheme.

    TP
    Barry
    Manu or Fin...I forget
    Bowen
    TD

    Too much ability to drive and shoot on the perimeter for the Suns to defend.
    I understand that, but we were shooting like crap before that shot though.

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    So that automatically makes small ball the perfect way to run every situation, even introducing it to a team that isn't familliar with it during a playoff series! Genius! Maybe the Jazz will take a page from that and put Okur and Boozer on the bench against the Warriors. It's so simple: Just bench Elson and Oberto and the Spurs will win the championship just like they did last year!
    I won't pretend to speak for TPark, but I think the point was recognizing that Pop made a solid adjustment by going small -- as you say Obstructed View -- in appropriate stretches of the game, rather than trying to force small ball for 48 minutes. Again, I thought Pop made a canny adjustment in Denver by going to small ball during Game 3 and instigating a big run that propelled the Spurs to victory. I thought he did the same thing last night.

    There's no reason -- with this roster -- for Pop to play wall-to-wall small ball. But in stretches, with the right combinations, it can be very effective.

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    ah personal shot, congrats for being like everyone else.

    Amazing how small ball is used quite a bit in the Denver series, and now this series its just being used "a little"

    yet alot of games during the season where the spurs won or come from behind to win due to small ball were "flukes" or whatever.
    Yeah, hitting five threes in a row to beat Portland was just coaching skill. Small ball was used just as cleverly in the first round as it has here. Neither situation has any resemblance to the lineups thrown out there last year.

    Sorry to take a personal shot, I know you've never done that before. You are always so respectful of everyone else's opinions.

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    I won't pretend to speak for TPark, but I think the point was recognizing that Pop made a solid adjustment by going small -- as you say Obstructed View -- in appropriate stretches of the game, rather than trying to force small ball for 48 minutes. Again, I thought Pop made a canny adjustment in Denver by going to small ball during Game 3 and instigating a big run that propelled the Spurs to victory. I thought he did the same thing last night.
    I agree completely. The Denver one in particular was very well done.

    There's no reason -- with this roster -- for Pop to play wall-to-wall small ball. But in stretches, with the right combinations, it can be very effective.
    At least this year the team has some experience with small lineups. They had almost no preparation for it last year, which hurt them, especially with the seeming unwillingness by the coach to even insert the centers on defensive possessions in close games.

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    Same place as all of the threads recognizing Brent Barry's +15 last night, I guess.
    I did my part.



    One thing I haven't seen anyone even mention is Parker's defense. Parker played 41 minutes and nobody scored on him. Nothing. No field goals and he didn't send anyone to the line.

    But yeah, I guess since he was only guarding Nash and Barbosa, nobody really cares.

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    One thing I haven't seen anyone even mention is Parker's defense. Parker played 41 minutes and nobody scored on him. Nothing. No field goals and he didn't send anyone to the line.

    But yeah, I guess since he was only guarding Nash and Barbosa, nobody really cares.
    I noticed that Parker was sickly effective on the defensive end, but I hadn't realized he was THAT effective.

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    One thing I haven't seen anyone even mention is Parker's defense. Parker played 41 minutes and nobody scored on him. Nothing. No field goals and he didn't send anyone to the line.

    But yeah, I guess since he was only guarding Nash and Barbosa, nobody really cares.
    i'm looking into my crystal ball here. i predict the sports guy mentions parker's defense in his next column...

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