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    just wondering though.
    If we take TD as a NON American also,the count gets even Bigger.
    you think FIBA is a better BB schooll to form Basketball players tham NCAA??

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    Considering Nash and Nowinzki learned how to play basketball after they got to the NBA (yes that does make sense) I have a hard time supporting that statement...

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    Considering that Duncan is one of the worst basketball players in FIBA history...

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    The reason they're not American is that they were not born in America.

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    The reason they're not American is that they were not born in America.
    Really?,well that makes Duncan a Non American also.(But he played NCAA Basketaball )

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    Almost anyone can make it big in the U.S., but in Europe it must take some special skill for you to be recognized by foreign scouts. Plus non-Americans probably have better fundamentals

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    I blame it on white ppl, they want to see the brother down

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    Steve Nash played in the ncaa as well, so really your point is just dirk?

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    Almost anyone can make it big in the U.S., but in Europe it must take some special skill for you to be recognized by foreign scouts. Plus non-Americans probably have better fundamentals
    I bet the non-Americans are smarter and culturally more sophisticated, too.

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    Almost anyone can make it big in the U.S., but in Europe it must take some special skill for you to be recognized by foreign scouts. Plus non-Americans probably have better fundamentals
    Thatīs exacly where i was coming from with this thread.
    Now,whatīs the reason for that?does it start in US college or before that?
    cause there is a Big diference on fundamentals on NON AMERCANS vs Americans players.The only thing that help African Americans is the athletysism.But (black)Brazilians got Fundamentals +Athletysism,and they played and learned BB under FIBA rules.

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    Steve Nash played in the ncaa as well, so really your point is just dirk?
    not really.Nash LEARNED BB under FIBA rules.He played FIBA for the Canadian Nat.team for many years.

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    I bet the non-Americans are smarter and culturally more sophisticated, too.
    they are cleaner too and less fat

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    not really.Nash LEARNED BB under FIBA rules.He played FIBA for the Canadian Nat.team for many years.

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    they are cleaner too and less fat
    I might concede on the less fat argument because there isn't as much food to go around, but we dominate the world in the hygiene department!

    Maybe international basketball players have better fundamentals becuase they'd rather stay away from each other?

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    Dumb thread.

    Nash and Duncan learned how to play basketball in the US. Without US coaching they'd be nothing.

    And Dirk would have been another Rik Smits without Don Nelson and AJ.

    Just wait, eventually this will morph into why Ginobili should be the #1 Spur of all time.

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    Hey I think I got a semi-answer for that one. Probably because of the extra sports they play.

    Nash plays soccer and I think Dirk does too, so that helps them gain a somehow special skill in basketball. Nash can dribble circles around anyone, runs fast, and has excellent court vision. Dirk is much more agile than most big men.

    And Duncan's early swimming career must have helped with his post moves and fundamentals around the basket.

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    Hey I think I got a semi-answer for that one. Probably because of the extra sports they play.

    Nash plays soccer and I think Dirk does too, so that helps them gain a somehow special skill in basketball. Nash can dribble circles around anyone, runs fast, and has excellent court vision. Dirk is much more agile than most big men.

    And Duncan's early swimming career must have helped with his post moves and fundamentals around the basket.
    Hey, yeah. Americans only play basketball. That must be it!

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    Dumb thread.

    Nash and Duncan learned how to play basketball in the US. Without US coaching they'd be nothing.

    And Dirk would have been another Rik Smits without Don Nelson and AJ.

    Just wait, eventually this will morph into why Ginobili should be the #1 Spur of all time.
    yeah,right.And also on why the spurs donīt draft NCAA players no more.Nice try sugar,but keep on trying though

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    talking about the Foreigners in the league, is there any reason why they all play in the West?
    Stojakovic in New Orleans, TP and Manu in SA, Nash in Phoenix, Dirk in Dallas, Gasol in Memphis, Yao Ming in Houston...

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    talking about the Foreigners in the league, is there any reason why they all play in the West?
    Stojakovic in New Orleans, TP and Manu in SA, Nash in Phoenix, Dirk in Dallas, Gasol in Memphis, Yao Ming in Houston...
    not really.
    look:nocioni in chicago,Big Z in Cleveland,milicic in Orlando,barbajoza in Toronto.and it gets bigger.
    they are all over the NBA.

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    The VI is a U.S. territory. Duncan is a U.S. Citizen. He's an American. He's even got the accent to boot.

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    not really.
    look:nocioni in chicago,Big Z in Cleveland,milicic in Orlando,barbajoza in Toronto.and it gets bigger.
    they are all over the NBA.
    still: the main Foreign forces are in the West... (i forgot about Diaw and Barbosa in Phoenix, Pietrus in GSW, Nene in Denver, Kirilenko and Okur in Utah...)... but yeah i don't see any reason for that...

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    Just wait till all the International players stop playing FIBA and you guys have to put a team together in 3 weeks, like we do. The illusions will end then.

    Anyway, props to the International players...but you're not there yet. Get serious.

    And how do Americans do overseas anyway? Pretty good eh? Even ones that can barely get on the court here...

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    Just wait till all the International players stop playing FIBA and you guys have to put a team together in 3 weeks, like we do. The illusions will end then.

    Anyway, props to the International players...but you're not there yet. Get serious.
    maybe so,i dont think its the Arg case,cause most of their players play in the NBA or Europe,as USA team players.

    but the NBA MVPs keep on been the NON Americans though.why is the reason for that?

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