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Salvatore or Bevetta no doubt.
FWD, in another post, has commented on who we might be seeing.
Is anyone concerned about the officiating in game 5?
Is it going to be a case of retaliatory calls designed to even out the injustice of being forced to suspend Amare/Boris? Or better yet (for the tin foil hat crowd), to ensure a 7 game series after all?
Or will it be more like the officiating we saw early in the Nuggets, when fans feared retaliation for the Crawford suspension, but instead got pretty even-handed officiating?
How does the officiating from the previous games play into Game 5, if at all?
***Please note, that whatever happens, it is in bent on the Spurs, as a championship contender, to adjust to whatever the refs throw at them and play hard through it. They can't rely on calls and bailouts and allow themselves to get frustrated as they did towards the end of Game 4.***
Salvatore or Bevetta no doubt.
The officials first and foremost will be looking to make sure the game does not get out of control. That usually meets they will blow the whistle a lot.
Let's just hope it is consistent.
This game is gonna take forever because of the whistles.
Per FWD (since I'm not watching), Salvatore is on tonight in Utah, so not him.
Fryer, Garretson and Callahan have been named as possibles in addition to Bavetta.
Just think if Crawford was still reffing in the league.
We have got to stop this conspiracy theory crap guys. Sometimes they miss the calls it happens but if you really think that the refs have a bias why even watch the games? Can we please stop acting like these guys are not pro's and don't want to do their job correctly.
Salvatore is calling tonight's game. We'll get Bavetta tomorrow, and he will have Duncan on the bench with two fouls before three minutes are gone in the first to, you know, even it out.
D'Antoni was eerily calm when asked for a response to the suspensions. The only time I've seen the guy that calm about the officiating was during all of game 4 last night, and we all saw what happened then.
You mean the same 'pros' who were being booked first class air fare for their travel, were getting to the airport and downgrading to coach, and pocketing the proceeds?
Great point, they're definitely of the highest character and should be trusted to be impartial
Definitely the Knick.
I totally forgot about Salvatore but he's calling the Warriors/Jazz game right now. I knew Bavetta was out there. Maybe Violet Palmer.
At least Nies and Javie won't be there.
What the are you talking about? If this is rigged why watch? Become a WWE fan when you know the is fake from the get go.You mean the same 'pros' who were being booked first class air fare for their travel, were getting to the airport and downgrading to coach, and pocketing the proceeds?
Great point, they're definitely of the highest character and should be trusted to be impartial
Spurs had a few bad calls but they choked game 4. Part of it is on POP who handled Duncan's minutes like and then did not get him the ball after the Suns went ahead.
I'm not calling a conspiracy.
But please. You are honestly telling me that officiating is always fair and impartial and never one sided?
Seriously? Did you watch the WCSF, particularly games 3 & 4 last year? Or the Finals last year? Or the Dallas/GS game 2 this year (one of the worst I've ever seen)?
You don't think that after a make-up suspension on Horry that it's unfair to ask how the officiating will go down? It's a fair question. It will make a difference in how the Spurs play, if there is an attempt to even up the series or favor either side.
Naturally, good teams play around the officiating, as I said initially. It shouldn't matter to the Spurs how the game is called - however it's called (fairly, unfairly, hands off, really tightly), they are responsible for adjusting (which the failed to do at the end of Game 4). But I want to know what others think and what others with more experience think is a likely outcome.
I think all the stuff you mentioned is simply looking at it from a fans point of view. The refs would have to decide on their own that they are calling the game in favor of another team. No chance the league tells them to and keeps that quiet in this day and age with the media. Which goes back to the point of them being not professional and screwing up on purpose which i do not believe because if i did there is no point in me watching the games at all.
I was unaware that I was to be looking at it from any point of view other than a fan's view.
I never said nor implied that the league was dictating the outcome of the game, except for a passing reference to the tin foil hat wearers.
Although, I do believe that certain officials (Bavetta among them) have a long history of interfering with the game and thinking that their role is something larger than simple interpretation of the rules of the game in live action. I don't think that necessarily means a Stern or league wide conspiracy.
We will get Salvitore before this series is over to do us in for good.
We must overcome that bas .
So you feel they are unprofessional on purpose. That they mess with the game to sooth their EGOS. Crawford did that and Stern bounced him from the league, that should say something about where he stands on this issue. NBA officiating is a hard job. As a fan though i can't feel like my team has to play around bad calls being made on purpose because it takes everything away from the purity of the game.
Caught up in the moment, maybe, is a better way to put it. I don't think the league continues to employ refs who make it clear that they have vendettas or agendas against particular players or teams - see Crawford.
But watch a close Bavetta game. He attempts to shift momentum, he does not call things evenly or consistently. He'll swing the calls in favor of a team and after a momentum swing, shift the calls in favor of the other team.
Salvatorre is a ing loon who should be fired. His officiating is a travesty.
And yes, it does affect the purity of the game, but until you get robots in there to do the job, there will be a certain level of error involved. That's why teams have to play through.
But I worry about seeing more of what we saw in game 4, which was way too heavy on the error, to the point that it appeared pretty lopsided.
i don't think he's allowed in the arena.
I'm a gay Suns fan. Go me.
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Why watch? Because college basketball is over, Tim Duncan's game is basketball at its purest, and the only other on TV right now is baseball
If you think the league's refs are objective, why is it that it's gotten to the point we can call the refs ahead of time based on the importance of the game in the series and the overall standing of the series?
Yep, totally random who shows up and how they call the games
I'm not a big fan of Bavetta but our record is pretty good with him. At this point, nothing will shock me anymore. I am going to take the rest of this series with a grain of salt because if we got one or two calls, down the stretch, that were legit fouls last night, we win game four.
Jack Nies calling that blocking foul on TD against Nash in the 2nd Quarter was a travesty. Mofo was looking right at the play. TD gave him a couple of glares after that one.
It's not about the egos you nitwit. Every game in the playoffs brings anywhere from 4-6 million. Yep, the league has no interest in series being extended to seven games at all.
If you want purity in the game of hoops, go watch some HS or college ball. Stern bounced Crawford because Joey turned it into a him vs. Duncan thing, instead of doing his job as an official to maintain control of the game. And it took him doing it twice in his career to get the boot.
From what I can determine, the possiblities for tonight are (in relatively decreasing order of likelihood):
Bavetta
Bernie Fryer
Ron Garretson
Mike Callahan
Tom Washington
Joe Forte
Tony Brothers
Sean Corbin
Michael Smith
Bennett Salvatore
Ken Mauer
Luis Grillo
Scott Foster
Monty McCutchen
Leon Wood
One thing to note, though, is that the officials who work tonight's game will (if historical form holds) not be available to work a Game 7, should it come happen.
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