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    anyone have access to it online and post a transcript??

    Dan Patrick and Keith Olbermann were discussing the ruling against the suns.
    Dan Patrick was discussing the ruling and brought up the harshness of the ruling and how it was going to affect the series.

    David Stern replies, "No Dan you know what is going to AFFECT the series, players knowing the rules, not being able to have self-control and their coaches not being able to control them either, thats whats going to hurt the series, AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT!!"

    David Stern also mentioned that he was open to having discussions of having the rule changed but it stands the way it is now.

    anyone else hear it this morning? Thats priceless!!

    Its done, deal with it people!!

    Please see exact quote below
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    "No Dan you know what is going to AFFECT the series, players knowing the rules, not being able to have self-control and their coaches not being able to control them either, thats whats going to hurt the series,[B] AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT!!"
    Yeah, something that isn't being mentioned is D'Antoni and the assistant coaches shouldn't have sprinted to the action. Every other coaching staff in the league knows that the first thing you do is make sure no player moves from the bench area.

    D'Antoni and the rest of the assistant coaches choked when they didn't follow rule number one.

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    wow

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    David Stern on Dan Patrick's Show

    May 16, 2007 2:45 PM


    ESPN Insiders can hear the whole thing here. Stern is not charming -- always been a bully, that one -- but he is not, it strikes me, wrong, either.

    Some key Stern quotes:

    There is no way to know if someone is running out on the court as friend or foe. When Rudy Tomjanovich was running out to see what was going on and trying to break up a fight, his face was forever changed. ...

    It's not being decided by [Robert Horry]. It's being decided by two Phoenix Suns who knew about the rule, forgot about it, couldn't control themselves, and didn't have coaches who could control them. And don't you forget it. Now, is it exactly fair? Probably not. Is it a red letter rule? Absolutely. Did cost other players and teams their playoffs and championships? Yes. So, I guess there's no way for us to get the message through. Do you think next year the players will understand it?

    I'm unhappy with the result. If the owners would like to change it, I'm happy to do it, believe me. I'd be very happy to do it. But to listen to the palaver that Robert Horry changed the series is just silly. What changed the series is that Amare and Boris ran out onto the court.

    Stern also later added "I guess it's a shame that I have a rule that I have to enforce," although he also adds that in the decade that rule has been in effect, no owner has ever suggested a change. Finally, he does not volunteer that the rule has anything to do with the image of the league, but says that it is about making sure players don't get hurt or killed.

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    Yeah, just heard the replay of it. Regardless of who you think is right or not, Stern really came across as a .

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    David Stern on Dan Patrick's Show

    May 16, 2007 2:45 PM


    ESPN Insiders can hear the whole thing here. Stern is not charming -- always been a bully, that one -- but he is not, it strikes me, wrong, either.

    Some key Stern quotes:

    There is no way to know if someone is running out on the court as friend or foe. When Rudy Tomjanovich was running out to see what was going on and trying to break up a fight, his face was forever changed. ...

    It's not being decided by [Robert Horry]. It's being decided by two Phoenix Suns who knew about the rule, forgot about it, couldn't control themselves, and didn't have coaches who could control them. And don't you forget it. Now, is it exactly fair? Probably not. Is it a red letter rule? Absolutely. Did cost other players and teams their playoffs and championships? Yes. So, I guess there's no way for us to get the message through. Do you think next year the players will understand it?
    I'm unhappy with the result. If the owners would like to change it, I'm happy to do it, believe me. I'd be very happy to do it. But to listen to the palaver that Robert Horry changed the series is just silly. What changed the series is that Amare and Boris ran out onto the court.

    Stern also later added "I guess it's a shame that I have a rule that I have to enforce," although he also adds that in the decade that rule has been in effect, no owner has ever suggested a change. Finally, he does not volunteer that the rule has anything to do with the image of the league, but says that it is about making sure players don't get hurt or killed.
    Thanks for posting this is important!!

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    Yeah, something that isn't being mentioned is D'Antoni and the assistant coaches shouldn't have sprinted to the action. Every other coaching staff in the league knows that the first thing you do is make sure no player moves from the bench area.

    D'Antoni and the rest of the assistant coaches choked when they didn't follow rule number one.

    the assistant coaches were caught up in the game.

    if you watch Mark Iavaroni's face...he starts to smile when he knows Nash is going to get fouled and go to the line (game over, he's thinking)...

    then the er's eyes and mouth open like the Red Sea when Horry knocks Nash into the table....

    he starts walking over to Nash before he catches himself and only then turns to look for players coming off the bench.

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    all i heard was a defensive bumbling idiot admitting they were wrong yet sticking to the rule. the guy is so scared of his ruling he cancled his courtside to phx because of a "cold" and he was "tired".

    lol

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    Stern is a .

    And Stern is the man.

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    David Stern on Dan Patrick's Show

    May 16, 2007 2:45 PM


    ESPN Insiders can hear the whole thing here. Stern is not charming -- always been a bully, that one -- but he is not, it strikes me, wrong, either.

    Some key Stern quotes:

    There is no way to know if someone is running out on the court as friend or foe. When Rudy Tomjanovich was running out to see what was going on and trying to break up a fight, his face was forever changed. ...

    It's not being decided by [Robert Horry]. It's being decided by two Phoenix Suns who knew about the rule, forgot about it, couldn't control themselves, and didn't have coaches who could control them. And don't you forget it. Now, is it exactly fair? Probably not. Is it a red letter rule? Absolutely. Did cost other players and teams their playoffs and championships? Yes. So, I guess there's no way for us to get the message through. Do you think next year the players will understand it?

    I'm unhappy with the result. If the owners would like to change it, I'm happy to do it, believe me. I'd be very happy to do it. But to listen to the palaver that Robert Horry changed the series is just silly. What changed the series is that Amare and Boris ran out onto the court.

    Stern also later added "I guess it's a shame that I have a rule that I have to enforce," although he also adds that in the decade that rule has been in effect, no owner has ever suggested a change. Finally, he does not volunteer that the rule has anything to do with the image of the league, but says that it is about making sure players don't get hurt or killed.
    Who is he trying to fool. It's all about the image of the league.

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    Yeah, just heard the replay of it. Regardless of who you think is right or not, Stern really came across as a .


    he usually does...

    a condescending, arrogant, defensive one at that.

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    all i heard was a defensive bumbling idiot admitting they were wrong yet sticking to the rule
    needs a hearing aid forum

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    the assistant coaches were caught up in the game.

    if you watch Mark Iavaroni's face...he starts to smile when he knows Nash is going to get fouled and go to the line (game over, he's thinking)...

    then the er's eyes and mouth open like the Red Sea when Horry knocks Nash into the table....

    he starts walking over to Nash before he catches himself and only then turns to look for players coming off the bench.
    Exactly.

    Watch what every other team does when there is an altercation on the court. Within a second, the assistant coaches jump up and hold the players back.

    Instead, Nash pulled his spread eagle drama queen maneuver to sell it, D'Antoni runs over like he's going to do something and the assistant coaches join the fray.

    The Suns have no one to blame but themselves.

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    all i heard was a defensive bumbling idiot admitting they were wrong yet sticking to the rule. the guy is so scared of his ruling he cancled his courtside to phx because of a "cold" and he was "tired".

    lol
    dude take off your rose colored glasses!!

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    he usually does...

    a condescending, arrogant, defensive one at that.
    Yeah, it's annoying that he takes all the credit for anything positive about the league but totally distances & deflects to the owners in situations like the suspensions. He must have mentioned that it's the owners rule at least 5 times during that interview

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    Gosh, the Commissioner just demanded that players be accountable for their bad choices and applied a rule even-handedly, without regard to the iden ies of the players involved.

    What a .

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    One thing I admire about Stern is his conviction. He does what he feels is right, even in the face of public scrutiny.

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    dude take off your rose colored glasses!!

    GO LISTEN TO IT, HE ADMITTED THE RULING NEEDED CHANGES....i didnt say it HE DID. so maybe he should take of his.

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    GO LISTEN TO IT, HE ADMITTED THE RULING NEEDED CHANGES....i didnt say it HE DID. so maybe he should take of his.
    Not really:

    "If the owners would like to change it, I'm happy to do it, believe me."

    Doubtful anyone but Sarver is going to give a this summer.

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    Gosh, the Commissioner just demanded that players be accountable for their bad choices and applied a rule even-handedly, without regard to the iden ies of the players involved.

    What a .
    Wasn't saying he came across as a because of what he said, but how he said it. He was a total to Dan Patrick the entire interview.

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    Wasn't saying he came across as a because of what he said, but how he said it. He was a total to Dan Patrick the entire interview.
    People are questioning the integrity of the league which he has run for 20 years...would you be sunshine and lollipops?

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    Gosh, the Commissioner just demanded that players be accountable for their bad choices and applied a rule even-handedly, without regard to the iden ies of the players involved.

    What a .

    yea that makes ALOT of sense now doesnt it?

    baron davis can ELBOW someone in the side of the face causing them physical harm yet he is allowed to play next game when it was CLEARLY intentional.

    bowen, wether it was on purpose or not had 2 incidents in a matter of 2 games, causing physical harm to nash and who knows what he was trying to do to amare.

    and of course the horry checking nash ting.

    then you have boris and amare who got off the bench...didnt engage in anything or even come close to it...yet they are the ones serving suspensions... does that make ANY SENSE to you at ALL?

    i mean that has got to be the most assbackwards crap ive ever seen.

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    People are questioning the integrity of the league which he has run for 20 years...would you be sunshine and lollipops?
    What integrity?

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    yea that makes ALOT of sense now doesnt it?

    baron davis can ELBOW someone in the side of the face causing them physical harm yet he is allowed to play next game when it was CLEARLY intentional.

    bowen, wether it was on purpose or not had 2 incidents in a matter of 2 games, causing physical harm to nash and who knows what he was trying to do to amare.

    and of course the horry checking nash ting.

    then you have boris and amare who got off the bench...didnt engage in anything or even come close to it...yet they are the ones serving suspensions... does that make ANY SENSE to you at ALL?

    i mean that has got to be the most assbackwards crap ive ever seen.




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    david stern proved again in a public interview why he needs to be let go

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