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The Dream
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why not
I guess some people would rather have 2 championships and few playoff appearances than have 3-4 championships and regular playoff appearances.
i would pick the greatest, because he was a super-human.
1) The Dream won with one type of team (surrounded by 3 pt shooters), Duncan won with much more.
2) The Dream's prime was quite long 89-96, but his years of dominance in the league was 2 to 3 years. Duncan's prime was 97-present, and he has been dominant since 99.
Whott would probably pick Terry mings.
Yes he was.....
sincerely,
Scottie pippen
and the 96' sonics.
I didn't put jesus as an option, pick again.
so...duncan > the goat of the goats???????????
Because Duncan is better
Throw in Russell, Wilt and Jabbar and there could be some debate.
who is "the dream"? hakem?. i thought it was mike.
who is "the dream"? hakem?. i thought it was mike.
Yes, Hakeem "The Wet Dream".
Hakeem was amazing on both ends just like Duncan but to me Tim is the ultimate team player that can adapt himself to any supporting cast. He makes everyone around him as good as anyone i have seen since Jordan.
I'd pick Tim, because his game is less predicated on athleticism, and he will probably last longer. When Dream's hops went, his game fell off a cliff.
different eras -- hakeem had to go up against Ewing, Mutombo, Sean Kemp - Shaq, D-rob - Mark Eaton all in their prime - there are few quality big men in the game today - not to take away from Duncan but his biggest obstacle --opponent was am old Karl Malone.
Hakeem won his two rings with Kenny Smith, Mario Elie, Sam Cassell and Bob -- he did not have near the team that the Spurs are.
http://www.nba.com/history/players/olajuwon_stats.html
Can you please explain how years like 1988,1989,1993,and 1996 are less dominant than Duncan's seasons post 1999, given that Hakeem's stats are better in both the regular seasons and postseasons than basically ANY of Duncan's years post 99?
This assumes that you are saying Hakeem's years of dominance in the league was only 1994 and 1995 which is just ludicrous.
Timmy is proven
This is why it's pretty silly just to look at rings. Duncan landed into the perfect situation with a top 50 player in David Robinson, a team which had consistently won 55-60 games before his arrival (discounting the 97 injury filled season).
Then the Spurs hit the jackpot in the draft with Manu and Parker, 2 excellent guards. They've had Bowen, Horry, and Finley, excellent role players.
Hakeem ran into a guy named Larry Bird in the 1986 Finals even after beating a Kareem/Magic team.
You have to look at context.
There's really nothing on the basketball court that Tim does BETTER than Olajuwon which is the problem in this matchup besides passing.
Hakeem scored more, had more moves, shot a higher % from the field and line, and defended better. He was Tim Duncan with more athleticism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmLR_VgbqAA
Tim does not look to put up the big stats. He is the ultimate team player. He goes 10-15 whenever he wants, you doubt Timmy could go for 35 a night every night if he wanted too. Tim can adapt himself better to teamates than Hakeem could. He had Barkley on his team still a very good player and Drexler and they lost in the playoffs to teams like the Sonics.
Actually, that's not true at all. Hakeem faced the Sonics once with Charles Barkley on his team in 1997. Both he and Charles were 34-35 yrs old at the time, past their prime, and they still beat the Sonics. Maybe you were thinking of the Utah Jazz the year they got to the Finals.
Regardless, using that argument is it a slap in Tim's face that he couldn't get past a team with Dirk Nowitzki as it's best player, not exactly a guy known as a playoff juggernaut?
Again, the best judges really should be Elie and Horry here since they played with both players in their primes. Both picked Hakeem so I guess they didn't seem to mind the way he "adapted to his teammates".
Hakeem was easily the better defensive player than Tim, so to make an argument Tim was better overall you have to argue that he was significantly better than him offensively even though your eyes, statistics, and guys who played with both say otherwise.
You just lost the argument with that crap right then and there pal, everyone knows Tim was putting up huge numbers in that series on one DAMN FOOT!! He still played great and his team let him down, that is a pathetic example.
b/c TD is better...
Uh, ok, and you won the argument when you said Hakeem lost with Barkley to the Sonics even though that was FALSE?
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