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There is not really any consistency at all in the NBA. Timmy would have had a great block on AK but the foul was called because his fingers grazed AK's arm after the shot was swatted. But Boozer tackles Duncan, and all hail the king...cmon
Hopefully someone can help me out. Boozer is getting a lot of mention for his spectacular block on Timmy's dunk attempt last night. No one seemed to mention that he simultaneously collided with him with the body. It's much easier to block someone when you are slamming into them at the same time. On the other hand, if you are a guard, you can run into the lane and jump into the nearest big man standing straight up with his arms pointing toward the ceiling, throw up a prayer with your fingertips, and that's an undisputed foul on the big man. Can someone direct me to a rulebook which can define these types of fouls consistently?
There is not really any consistency at all in the NBA. Timmy would have had a great block on AK but the foul was called because his fingers grazed AK's arm after the shot was swatted. But Boozer tackles Duncan, and all hail the king...cmon
He didn't tackle Duncan. Duncan fell because he got stuffed. There was body contact, but come on, the refs shouldn't call fouls on that crap it's the playoffs. There wasn't enough contact at all.
That was pretty solid contact, but I agree with you because he touched the ball first. However, the point about consistency is a good one. If that's not a foul, then at least 2 fouls shouldn't have been called last night for barely any contact after the ball was away on blocks.
It was a good block. Some body contact, but the contact didn't effect the outcome of the play, and the contact didn't impede TD at all - it was Boozer's block up top that stopped the ball. Nice one - we'll give that to the Jazz and take the 3-1 lead back to SA.
People forget that we are looking at replays in slow motion, and the refs are calling it in real time. I think that block by Boozer was about as clean as you can get. And while there were some questionable calls on both sides, sometimes its tough to see or call in real time.
Oh yeah, the league is so ing inconsistent with its officials. It's ridiculous how one night they call certain things and the next they don't. There needs to be much more consistency.
As I said in another thread that was all ball and it was two heavyweights so naturally their bodies will collide on a hard block like that. It was not a foul just physics.
That was one of the best blocks I've ever seen, and it was clean. Any body contact was incidental and after Boozer met him at the apex.
If you want a foul called on that Boozer block, you want a pussy league. I'm glad no ty foul was called on that play.
Boozer's block was textbook perfect.
Most of you guys wouldn't know consistency if it bit you in the ass. The NBA officials are excellent and last night's game was very well officiated, as are the vast majority of NBA games. Good teams figure out a way to win no matter how the game is being called, and the officials have never been the difference in a seven game series. Ever. The better team always wins.
The NBA is hands down the worst officiated league in professional sports.
I wouldn't go that far, but they have been the best this playoff season that I've seen in several years.
Maybe the single dumbest take ever.
I take it you study the officiating in all other sports. That arguement could be made for any pro sports. There is always a margin of error, the refs are only human in any sport.
How's that? Just like many others have said, there is absolutely no consistency in the calls. Refs get swayed by the crowd, coaches pleading for calls in press conferences, etc. And each referee will call a game in his or her own special way. Why do you think we focus so much on who the officiating crew is on a particular night. Because it affects the outcome. You think fans in the NFL worry about who the refs are? They don't. So tell me why my take was the "dumbest ever" dip .
I thought it was a stellar block. Even Duncan didn't dispute it, as he is prone to do after anything that remotely may be a foul.
By the way; I think budkin isn't too far off; NBA officiating is terrible. I think one of the biggest reasons is that it may be the most difficult officiating, as so much incidental contact could freeze up the game. Do we want to see 100 free throws per game? I don't.
ball first, body contact second= good block
Because it isn't. I can think of three other major sports where the officiating is worse. Since there are only four major sports...
Last night's game was incredibly consistent. They didn't bail anyone out trying to draw charges, they allowed the offenses to score and they only blew the whistles for intentional fouls or hacks. The fact that the Spurs suddenly got aggressive in the fourth quarter isn't the fault of the refs. You want inconsistency, look up the strike zones for the different umpires in the majors.
The refs didn't get swayed by the crowd last night. The coaches that plead for calls typically don't receive them just for pleading, and the officials are human until further notice. Since they are human in the other sports then all the same frailties apply to them as well. The NBA has a much more stringent accountability, training, and review policy than any other professional sport. They record and review all their games, including checking on calls and tendencies during halftime. Their calls are checked by their teammates during games. All their calls are reviewed and graded by themselves, their superiors and their peers and the lowest rated officials usually lose their jobs.
If you weren't impressed by the audio of the officiating crew gathering the information to ultimately reverse a bad call after AK knocked the ball out of bounds then no amount of logic is going to dissuade you from your opinion. And if you think that they have time to consciously decide the outcome of the game while concentrating on being in position to make any calls at all, you're off your rocker.
In my opinion? Because you want someone to blame in case your team loses. Most of you only about it when it goes against you. I'm sure someone was predicting that Javie was going to the Spurs last night, and that person won't say anything until sometime down the road when the Spurs lose a Javie officiated game.
The ones who want someone to blame when their team loses do.
I think I've made that pretty clear, but I absolutely expect you to stick to the opinion you have here no matter how convincing the argument. You didn't really want to know why your take was dumb.
Strike zone calls have improved a great deal over the last couple years, since they are now tracking and charting umps performances. I think they are allowed a 10% margin of error and if they drop below that, they're in trouble. There was a lot of talk about the new accountability system back in April.
Personally I'd rank NFL superior to NBA in terms of consistency, and MLB is rising.
A lot of that is because there is much more to pay attention to in the NBA. Faster action with a small crew. I would love for them to be more consistent (especially on travel calls and block/charge calls), but that's wishful thinking. It's hard for them to see everything that goes on.
Thanks for responding OV. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I should have been more specific in my first post as to why I thought the officiating was so bad. I made a blanket statement with nothing to back up my posts, but I didn't think it was fair to just say that my take was flat out . You've made your points as to why you think that is. I still don't agree on the consistency with just one game as an example, but to each his own. Anyway, GO SPURS GO!
I think basketball is just a much more difficult game to officiate than football and especially baseball. In basketball, almost every play has the muddy grey areas of a grab filled, "did he or didn't he" potential pass interference call in football. Football games get maybe 3 to 5 of those close ones a game where a good, physical basketball game gets dozens a night. It's a tough gig.
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