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    I will admit that I am venting but
    I am a big Jazz fan, and I was at game 4, I could not believe my eyes . I can not believe that the best of the best NBA officials can be so bad. Luckly I also recorded the game at home, watching the replays from my 120 inch hd projector the calls were just as bad, I was pretty ashamed of the refs, I did not throw anything, but all you big mouths that are trashing on Jazz fans, if you were there you could probably understand why some people would. And for those of you that say the Jazz fans caused the refs to favor the Spurs, then you agree that the refs didn't do there jobs.

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    I watched the entire 4th quarter and slow motioned every foul call and every close play in the paint and I honestly don't know what game you were watching. Did you not see all of the contact that the Jazz made on fouls that the refs had no choice but to call? It was obvious.

    On the other hand, are you suggesting that guys like Boozer and Kirilenko should have gotten free throws on weak jump shots that drew no contact?

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    you can call a foul on almost any NBA play, cause there is always going to be contact, but not every one should be called, I can think of a time that Dwill drove to the basket and TD got him with the body, and a play were Milsap was mangled, you didn't see those?

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    plus don't think I didn't see the cheep shot TD had on Fisher with the fore arm, and a shove that Horry had on Milsap that the camra didn't catch, but I seen the ref at the game watch it happen

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    Stop worrying about the refs
    nice idea tell that to all the floppers

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    I also saw Okur pussying out in the 4th by getting his 6th foul hacking across the arm of Oberto on a fade away, Fisher hacking twice on jump shots and getting a lot of body contact on a TP drive, Boozer grabbing TD's arm on a shot, and Manu basically getting hammered at the rim 3 or 4 times in the 4th alone. The secret to the Spurs defense, especially in the 4th, is that they challenge without swatting their hands and arms down on the opponent. It's no secret that the refs allow a bit of body contact, but if you're hacking down on opponents arms, hands, and head it's an easy call. The Spurs challenged without hacking and the Jazz made no secret of hacking away constantly.

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    nice idea tell that to all the floppers
    Fisher's not taking calls right now.

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    The refs favored the spurs?

    I think one team was driving hard into the paint while the other was taking jumpshots and bad contested layups.

    The only thing that was unfortunate was Fish being ejected on the oversold foul(but still a foul) on Manu.

    Whine to your players to be more aggressive, not the refs for not calling fouls on hammering of Ginobili.

    By the way, there were a dozen times I counted to three seconds with Boozer or AK in the paint. Maybe I should whine to the refs about that.

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    its hard to keep taking it into the paint, when you will get fouled and you wont get the call. Come on get real 25 to 2. Its hard for the Jazz to keep any kind of momentum at home when Spurs are always at the line, do you really think all those free throw were legit.

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    I can understand thinking that your team got screwed after the game, but if you watched the fourth quarter again and still think the calls were bad then you are just re ed. The refs would lose their jobs for not making the calls they did. Williams jumped into Duncan who kept his hands straight up in the air. Duncan and Manu were hit across the arms on every one of the fouls they drew. The refs didn't call any cheap fouls, so the only surprise is that you think your jump shooting team deserved them.

    You are a whining pussy sore loser, and I'll be glad classless blind ers like you are broken hearted when the classy team you don't deserve is eliminated.

    Spurs fans who say the refs were swayed by the antics of the home crowd are just as wrong as you are. If your team wanted to go to the line, they shouldn't have shot so many jumpers.

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    what about the T's smart ass, those have been getting called tons during the playoffs hu? No just when manu flops the out of Fisher. I have watched that about 10 times. I have never disputed that the Spurs are an amazing team, but I would think as a Spurs fan that you would especially want the game called fair, so you could win without the refs help, I think all refs are scared of making calls against the spurs, look what happened to Joey Crawford when he did

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    So another team's going to blame the series on the refs....

    hilarious.

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    what about the T's smart ass, those have been getting called tons during the playoffs hu? No just when manu flops the out of Fisher. I have watched that about 10 times. I have never disputed that the Spurs are an amazing team, but I would think as a Spurs fan that you would especially want the game called fair, so you could win without the refs help, I think all refs are scared of making calls against the spurs, look what happened to Joey Crawford when he did



    Are you kidding me?

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    I've heard this bull before. It's the cry of incompetent fan.

    Edit: Never mind, guys a troll as exemplified by his post below.

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    Also the Spurs are the only team that can tell a ref that he made a wrong call and then have the ref change the call, it happened on an out of bounds play in game 4

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    The Ts didn't matter, Utah lost before them, when they were taking all those bad jumpshots.

    The refs would have called something if they'd have kept their head down and stormed into the paint looking for a good shot or create opportunities, that wasn't what stopped them from doing that. They collapsed under the pressure of the Spurs interior defense and chose not to drive it in. They got the fear in them. The fear of Tim Duncan sending them back down to their bench with Sloan screaming in their ear.

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    I love craft beer. Sense's Avatar
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    Also the Spurs are the only team that can tell a ref that he made a wrong call and then have the ref change the call, it happened on an out of bounds play in game 4
    Seriously..... there's nothing you can do that can change what we saw...

    At the end of the day your team lost and all you can do is whine about it and blame it on something else...

    Why don't you do like Nugget and Suns fans for the most part did? and accept it...

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    This is too funny and it won't help me sleep.. so im out.

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    Just wait untill you all are up against Lebron, then you will be posting the same I am. Its hard to see when its your own team getting favored. and as much as the NBA likes TD and the Spurs, they like there coveted Lebron better.

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    what about the T's smart ass,
    Sloan's first T was after Milsap tried to draw a charge. It was clearly a block, and nobody with any credibility argues that call. Sloan threw a fit and ran completely out of the coach's box. Sloan got hit with a quick T to try to calm the Jazz team down, because they were taking cues from the fans and reacting to every single whistle. Fisher got his first T for seeking out Manu which everyone, even you, knows Fisher initiated. It was a stupid play, and Sloan was stupid for trying to defend that or Fisher's pathetic flop just before the layup. Fisher's second T was for a blow to the head and then standing over the guy he just knocked to the ground. If he'd just turned around after he did it he wouldn't have gotten the second technical, he would have just fouled out.


    No just when manu flops the out of Fisher.
    You cannot come in here and even suggest that Fisher didn't initiate that contact. You simply cannot. If you are angry at anyone for flopping, you should be mad at Fisher.

    I have watched that about 10 times.
    Yet you still haven't seen it. Amazing.

    I have never disputed that the Spurs are an amazing team, but I would think as a Spurs fan that you would especially want the game called fair, so you could win without the refs help, I think all refs are scared of making calls against the spurs, look what happened to Joey Crawford when he did
    I want the game called fairly, which it absolutely was. You are the one in here asking for help from the refs. You know absolutely that the hardest fouls in the game were committed by the Jazz and not by the Spurs. Too bad you aren't man enough to admit it. Perhaps you should become a Suns fan. The Jazz are too classy for you to root for, especially if you think what Joey Crawford did was right.

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    Its Late I am off to bed, good luck in game five. My prediction is, that the Jazz will either get blown out, or it will be a down to the last min game, it all depends n if the Jazz have already counted themselves out.

    oh yeah and give me some credit I have come on this Spurs site and gotten handeld by you guys since 2004, go a little easy on me

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    Just wait untill you all are up against Lebron, then you will be posting the same I am. Its hard to see when its your own team getting favored. and as much as the NBA likes TD and the Spurs, they like there coveted Lebron better.
    Then why did Lebron go an entire game against the Pistons without attempting a free throw?

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    Yeah, the Spurs are the "only" team that the refs have changed a call on when they complained about an incorrect call.

    This guy's a dumb ...time for coffee.

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    Its Late I am off to bed, good luck in game five. My prediction is, that the Jazz will either get blown out, or it will be a down to the last min game, it all depends n if the Jazz have already counted themselves out.

    oh yeah and give me some credit I have come on this Spurs site and gotten handeld by you guys since 2004, go a little easy on me
    You don't deserve any credit if you come in here trying to sell bad officiating for the reason your team imploded. My team's two best players went right into the teeth of the defense in the fourth quarter and got the beat out of them, yet you are trying to minimize that enormous effort. you.

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    Also the Spurs are the only team that can tell a ref that he made a wrong call and then have the ref change the call, it happened on an out of bounds play in game 4
    So you are angry that they got the call right? So you are basically saying that the officials should cheat for you just because the game was in Utah?

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