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A question was brought up on STSA yesterday, and their topic during the 4 and 5 o'clock hours was "Why doesn't San Antonio endear themselves to Tony Parker the way they do Tim and Manu?"
I was curious what everyone's take here is on that. We seem to have a good balance of Tony haters and Tony lovers here, so why is it. What is it about TP that causes some of the Spur fans to like him less than Tim or Manu? We have people that would be downright pissed if he gets the MVP even though his leadership and stats have been comparable to Duncans.
One of those idiots on STSA actually made a good point (which is rare). He said "you know, if Tony had an 0-7 shooting night in game 3 Spurs fans and media would be crucifying him. Manu does it and pretty much gets a free pass."
I'm not necessarily taking a side on who should be MVP or even who should be a fan favorite, but I am curious to know what your thoughts are on this subject.
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Jealosy ........ or that he is french.
I agree. even non-spurs fans have more love for tony than spurs fans.
It is a mystery why.
in any other team, fans would be on TP's nuts.
I really believe it has something to do with the fact that Tony is French, while Manu shares the hispanic heritage of so many here in San Antonio.
I don't agree with those feelings - I love them both the same - they are the most exciting guys to watch!
Question: If Tony wins MVP, will it make him more liked or more hated?
As for the original question, I have no answer. I love Tony and think he is the future of the franchise.
Then some dumb poster will rank Tony the 7th best PG currently.
1. tough to be french in Texas
2. he is a shot first PG and takes manu's shots
3. he's a horrible rapper
4. he's dating Eva (jealousy)
5. he's french
6. ........ he's french
Unfortunately, I think he will be more hated b/c its so close (stat wise) between him and Duncan. Fans will probably think he stole it from Duncan and somehow tarnished his legacy.
Tony's f'n awesome and I've always liked him since he was 19. , I bought his Jersey in 2001.
I'd take him over chris paul, gilbert arenas, baron davis,steve nash, and deron williams any day of the week.
Spurs fans who don't like Tony are weak.
They might need a therapist.
The most honest answer .. HE"S FRENCH!
1) Tony plays a position that has high standards of excellence. Some people just have taken those standards to unreasonable heights in judging his play.
2) Some people have other favorites on the team and will stoop to ANYTHING to prevent their favorite from looking bad - including tear down other players who they fear may be seen as playing better.
3) Some people see him as being too 'commercial' or too 'Hollywood' off the court and extend their criticisms to his play, unwarranted or not.
4) Some people presume to know more about him than his own coach and teammates.
O.k. ... HE'S French!
It's nothing against Tony at all. I just think Manu has a special bond with the city because he's taking one for the team in coming off the bench, and the more obvious, he can speak Spanish.
racism is in the air...
He's French... seriously? I know people throw that out ( , I have too) as a reason, but I always said it half-jokingly.
If that's the real reason, then Tony Parker haters really are stupid.
I <3 Tony.
really I think it;s because manu plays so crazy or wild we alwayss expect his antics to be 50/50. If he crews up we know later on he'll make it up.
Tony however has been molded and groomed by Pop sonce 18/19 and we fans expect the militant consistancy out of him that we see out of Tim.
I don;t know what the French thing is abouyt .. unless it all goes back to "freedom fries: bull . I'm not down with nation hatin.
Just an guess...
Point guard is the toughest position. Period. You have to get teammates involved and run the offense. Plus, you're required to make crucial buckets when the offense breaks down or there's not much time left on the clock. It's different responsibilities than Tim/Manu.
Tony is not your traditional John Stockton type of point guard. He has to SCORE to be effective. So when Tony gets super aggressive towards the basket or takes jump shots, he takes away shots/touches from Tim or Manu. And if it's not a basket and ends up being a turnover, people bemoan and because people think Tim/Manu could have been a better option.
If we aren't running 4-down, our next play is the 1-4 high pick-and-roll with Tony and Tim. That's more than 50% of the Spurs playbook right there. If Tim isn't open in left low block, Tony is REQUIRED to SCORE.
AND POP WANTS IT THAT WAY.
STSA wanted to get people to call in and stir up a debate. I think Tony is liked by a lot of people here, especially women.
Good question...
I'm european too, from Montenegro, ex Yugoslavia republic at the coast of Adriatic sea.
I like Tony, but not near like I like TD, or Manu, at least. I don' have nothing against him, but simply, I don't consider him as important as Tim is. Methinks that every better PG can replace TP, but out there is no man who can replace TD. At least, every PG who penetrates. TD is the reason Parker, and every other spurs player are that good.
But that's simply not true!
i.e., we have tried other point guards, and none are as good as Parker.
It works both ways: Tony's jumper and penetration makes it easier for Tim Duncan to get shots.
he's french, sad to say but reality hurts.
As a french and poster here for 2years and a half there's no other reason.
I mean at some point here at ST i was ignored or just brought down coz of the lil flag in my avatar.
I honestly dont get the hate over frenchmen.
someone could explain?
Something else to think about. He replaced AJ, one of the biggest fan favorites ever, when he was a rookie. I think inderectly a lot of people feel like he ran AJ off.
I would think its pretty obvious why people love Tim a bit more than TP. Parker and Manu are WITH the Spurs, Tim IS the Spurs. With regards to why people in San Antonio seem to like Manu more than TP, I can only assume its the heritage. I don't really understand why people don't like Parker that much, I mean the man has done everything right up 'till now.
I know here in Argentina a lot of people didn't like Parker because of ignorance. They thought Parker was preventing Manu from something (don't ask me what). This idiotic notion seems to have gone away as the manumania has died down almost completely here. Fact is, here in Argentina, Parker hate can be attributed to ignorance, but over in San Antonio, I don't understand how.
tony couldn't shoot before. now he can.
he's more aggressive. pop has taken the reigns off.
this is the 1st year, imo, that he has been a major part of a spurs championship.
i'm glad he came around and glad he's on our team.
but i was hoping the spurs would trade his ass in years past.
we've all seen manu's play have less consistency over the past couple years, but he's definitely had his playoff moments already, and the spurs won the championship his 1st year in the league. so that has put him above tony in the past.
if tony wins mvp? he deserves it.
so does td and bruce, but the 4th le is all that matters.
Also in the past he used to get to the rim and miss the lay up. His finishing ability from his rookie year to now is not even close. A lot of people always bring up the past when I am arguing with them about how good he has gotten. They refuse to look at what a complete player he has become and how much better he will probably get.
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