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    Experimental game raises the basket and questions

    Brayden Billbe caught the pass on the block. He drop-stepped and turned to dunk, just as he usually would.

    Nope, not this time. Not with the basket a foot higher.

    "All of a sudden, I'm like 'oh, no.' So I flip it up there and it rolls off the rim," Billbe said. "I felt like an idiot."

    There were a few of those moments on Saturday during an exhibition basketball game featuring 11-foot rims. Organized by former NBA assistant Tom Newell -- son of former coach and acclaimed big-man instructor Pete Newell -- the exhibition surely won't be remembered for the quality of play, but perhaps for sparking a change.

    "I think this will open the professional league's eyes, where they may experiment with it, give it a serious look," said Jim Harrick, the former UCLA coach who was coaching one of the teams.

    For the record, Saturday's exhibition ended with a 90-60 victory for the "gold" team. Billbe, a 6-foot-11 center who played at American University, scored a game-high 20 points and grabbed 14 rebounds.

    But the goal for Newell was to examine how the game was different with the taller rims. Was there more passing and spacing? Was teamwork at more of a premium and less of a focus on individual play? Was a challenge presented to the players, all of which had some college experience, and could they adapt?

    The answer seemed to be a resounding yes.

    "They represented the game fundamentally as best as I could have expected," Newell said.

    It was sloppy exhibition in the early going, a side effect of the players spending just a week practicing for it.

    By the second quarter the quality improved, and effects of the taller basket became evident.

    Perhaps the biggest impact was on the interior players. No longer could centers like Billbe catch the ball on the low block, turn and simply extend their arms and lay the ball over the rim.

    With the taller rim, if their positioning was too deep, the shot angle was nearly impossible. When they turned, an upward shot was needed. The feel a big man has for their position on the floor was completely altered.

    "I can't wait to get back to a 10-foot rim," said 6-8 Adam Zahn, who played at Oregon. "This showed me that I do rely on my athleticism a lot."

    The taller rim also impacted outside shooting. Players who weren't square to the basket with their feet set had trouble early on getting the ball over the front rim. Shots improved later in the game, but fadeaways and contested attempts often didn't have a chance.

    About a 1,000 fans turned out for the exhibition on the University of Washington campus, including current Washington coach Lorenzo Romar and former coach Marv Harshman. Newell's experiment came from a belief that today's game relies too much on dunking, 3-point shooting and the pure athleticism of players bigger, faster and stronger than the past.

    "On offense, a player still has to use their athleticism, you just use it in a different way," said Ryan Rourke, who played at Cornell and now plays in Europe.

    Added Andrew Zahn, Adam's brother who plays professionally in Japan, "Kids are dunking now in eighth grade, freshman year in high school. You go back to this, the court is a lot more spread, there are more fundamentals."

    Early on, there weren't many fundamentals. The teams combined for 16 turnovers in the first quarter and finished with 43 combined. Yet, the court opened up, proving lanes for cutting and passing. Players who usually would hoist 23-foot 3-pointers, passed up the deep shot to take a couple of dribbles and instead shoot an 18-footer.

    Ultimately, Newell was pleased, but realizes any change will depend on public reception to a game that would be less about entertainment and more fundamental.

    "I can definitely see this happening again," Andrew Zahn said. "To be involved with the first one is kind of cool."


    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2906707

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    So basically a 11 foot rim would turn the NBA into the WNBA.

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    So basically a 11 foot rim would turn the NBA into the WNBA.
    11 foot rims wouldn't hurt the NBA. It would make idiots like you who just care about Dunks turn away and watch other sports.

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    11 foot rims wouldn't hurt the NBA. It would make idiots like you who just care about Dunks turn away and watch other sports.
    Eh, who pissed in your Cheerios?

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    that would be very gay

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    it would hurt players like tim duncan and shaq

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    why don't they just bring in those variable rotating rims from shaq's old powerade commercials.

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    11 foot rims???

    I say don't make them taller. Bring them down!!!!

    7 foot rims!!!!

    Now that would be great fun seeing 7 footers constantly smashing their faces on the rims. I'd like to see Yao Ming having to bend down to block a shot.

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    11 foot rims would be cool.


    Only a select few would dunk. Vince Carter, LeBron, Kobe, Dwight Howard, Amare...it would be fun to watch I think.

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    11 foot rims would be cool.


    Only a select few would dunk. Vince Carter, LeBron, Kobe, Dwight Howard, Amare...it would be fun to watch I think.
    Tmac and Yao would still dunk...

    but this idea is stewpid

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    No sir, I don't like it.

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    ty ass idea... the ratings would drop to ..... shooters would have to readjust their shot..... crappy ass idea

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    Eh, who pissed in your Cheerios?

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    id like to see how duncan would score if he couldnt do his 2 foot turn around jump hook every time

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    Bring it on. I would love to see that.

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    ..... shooters would have to readjust their shot..... crappy ass idea

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    11 foot rims???

    I say don't make them taller. Bring them down!!!!

    7 foot rims!!!!

    Now that would be great fun seeing 7 footers constantly smashing their faces on the rims. I'd like to see Yao Ming having to bend down to block a shot.

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    id like to see how duncan would score if he couldnt do his 2 foot turn around jump hook every time
    With his golden bank shot maybe?

    _irk would be ringless still.

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    Bring it on. I would love to see that.
    Dirkhead...the article CLEARLY mentioned that

    ...but fadeaways and contested attempts often didn't have a chance.
    Fadeaways are all Mr. Chokejobski lives on!

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    BTW I am with ALVAREZ6 on this one.

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    , Stern can't even change the ball.

    Nothing fundamental will change in basketball.

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    They're doing everything they can to keep white guys in the league.

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    They're doing everything they can to keep white guys in the league.
    Yao. Ming. Would. Dunk. Still.

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    Yao. Ming. Would. Dunk. Still.
    Well let me know when Yao Ming turns white, then maybe you'll have a point.

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    Well let me know when Yao Ming turns white, then maybe you'll have a point.
    So he is yellow then, right?

    Yellow as lemon!

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