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Yeah.Anybody see a trend here?
You're a racist.
...the wrath of all the politically-correct race baiters in the forum, I'm going to ask the obvious.
Is there a race, other than blacks, that routinely does this?
Texas Crowd Kills Man After Car Hits Kid
Police Release More Detail About Juneteenth Violence
Fights mar Juneteenth celebration in Syracuse
Then, in just thinking back...two other prominent cases pop up.
Reginald Denny after the L.A. verdicts and Al Sharpton's Crown Heights nonsense.
Anybody see a trend here?
Yeah.Anybody see a trend here?
You're a racist.
White teen mob attacks Latino men in Mulino park
A mob of 20 to 30 white teenagers beat and threw stones at two Latino men in an unprovoked attack at a park south of Oregon City late Thursday, police said.
"This is one of the most hate-filled crimes I can remember in Oregon," Det. Jim Strovink, spokesman for the Clackamas County Sheriff's Office, said Saturday. "The mob was shouting things like, 'Go back to Mexico.' "
An 18-year-old Oregon City man was taken to the Clackamas County Jail on charges that include assault and rioting, but police said Saturday they are searching for other known suspects.
At 10:46 p.m. Thursday, a Clackamas County sheriff's deputy responded to a disturbance at Wagon Wheel Park in Mulino, where Molalla Police officers were already on scene trying to restore order.
Two bruised and battered Hispanic men — Edwin Alfonzo Gonzales, 27, and Alex Bivian Guzman, 26 — told officers they had been confronted by a group of 20 to 30 white males at the park. Both men are employees of a Molalla lumber mill.
Gonzales told police that the instigator of the confrontation — later identified as Austin Wright Greenwood, 18, of Oregon City — hit him on the back with a large rock and encouraged others to do the same.
The white men, described by the victims as a "mob," then began to surround Gonzales and Guzman. The men told police they were pushed to the ground, kicked, beaten and pummeled with large rocks.
"These poor souls were terrified," Strovink said. "They were minding their own business, and they were attacked with absolutely no provocation by strangers."
Gonzales told police that he and Guzman got back in Gonzales' car and tried to flee as the crowd continued to throw large rocks at them, smashing out the car's windows and causing more than $1,000 in damage.
After questioning Austin Wright Greenwood at the scene, a Clackamas County Sheriff's Deputy placed him under arrest. The deputy reported that Greenwood said, "The only thing I did was wrestle with some fat Mexican."
The deputy also reported that Greenwood spat on the patrol car window and urinated in the rear seat while he sat in custody. The officer said Greenwood also repeatedly hurled profanities at the deputy as he drove Greenwood to jail, where he is now lodged.
Edwin Gonzales, complaining of severe back pain, was treated at Salem Hospital and released.
Greenwood was charged with second-degree assault, riot, first-degree criminal mischief and being a minor in possession of alcohol.
Any witnesses with information are urged to call the Clackamas County Sheriff's Office confidential tip line at 503-723-4949.
Touche'
I should have excluded teenager of any race. They're all stupid.
But, seriously, look at the riots started over the past 40 years, any not started by blacks?
Dont go that far back in history. Because they might have had some good damn reasons...
No reason to destroy your own community.
Well Yoni, social inequality will help contribute to this sort of thing, and it also helps when the perspective in how the media portrays it is slanted. I haven't heard of a lot of African Americans dragging gays behind their pickup trucks and killing them, but I don't think phobia is limited to whites.
You seem to write it off as a racial issue when it is more of a combination of social inequalities based on race and income.
And to say that you are risking baiting PC folk with an honest question really justs masks an embedded racism in yourself. Much akin to saying "I don't mean to be insulting"...and then insult someone.
Of course. Mount Pleasant. Kent State. White Night. WTO. That's just a few obvious ones.
Blacks as individuals are like you and me. Urban blacks once they get together get pretty stupid.
I have seen no historical evidence showing that all races are not equally susceptible to mob mentality.
Is UV on ignore? i don't see his post...
Good one Yoni
Yeah, you're right; I threw this thread up half-baked and in response to my anger over the senseless mob killing of this guy in Austin.Good one Yoni
So are you saying that Black people are inherently evil and violent, or do you think it's just the rap music that makes them that way?
Wow, thanks for explaining that. I guess I've missed all of the latest studies which would have provided me with such information.
I certainly believe they are more prone to the mob mentality exhibited in the murder here in Austin this week.
I also believe it is a cultural manifestation and not a racial one.
Really, because the question,
makes it sound as if you are alleging that this phenomenon is somehow unique to the Black race.
I think it's fast becoming a trait of the immigrant hispanic communities as well.Really, because the question,
makes it sound as if you are alleging that this phenomenon is somehow unique to the Black race.
What's the common thread?
Victimization and advocates that like to whip up a frenzy. Blacks, because of their victimhood, somehow feel en led to riot, destroying their own communities in the process, at the drop of a hat.
We're seeing signs of the same developing in parts of California in relation to the immigration debate. I don't doubt there'll be riots over that before it is all over with.
But, to point to another culture guilty of the same...look at the North African immigrants in the suburbs of Paris, France.
I was ineloquent in my original post. You're correct, I did make it sound more racial than cultural. But, if you look back over the last 40 years...the vast majority of civil unrest in America has been instigated by blacks -- over the flimsiest of excuses.
I doubt that is a sense of en lement as much as frustration and a feeling of being trapped in injustice.
Whites in the past have risen up and rebeled in the same cir stances, but the times were much different and rebelling was not as difficult a task. (American Revolution, French Revolution) But since it was whites rebelling against other whites the racial aspects seem to disappear. Whites have never been the minority against a racial majority to have gone through the same things. (slavery, discrimination, social inequlities)
You're wrong. Whites have never been so weak-willed as to fall prey to the mob mentality (well, except for all of the lynching.....)
A mob of 10,000 whites took sledgehammers to the county jailhouse doors to get at these two young blacks accused of raping a white girl; the girl’s uncle saved the life of a third by proclaiming the man’s innocence. Although this was Marion, Ind., most of the nearly 5,000 lynchings do ented between Reconstruction and the late 1960s were perpetrated in the South. (Hangings, beatings and mutilations were called the sentence of “Judge Lynch.”) Some lynching photos were made into postcards designed to boost white supremacy, but the tortured bodies and grotesquely happy crowds ended up revolting as many as they scared. Today the images remind us that we have not come as far from barbarity as we’d like to think.
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Using this logic:
Looking back over the last 40 years , there has been a clear majority of attacks against sexuals by hetrosexual males than the other way around. What is it about us hetrosexuals that makes us so violent?
Heterosexual males must have a victim's mentality and a sense of en lement.
I see, so what injustice was that poor man perpetrating on those several hundred black people when they beat him to death on Tuesday night?
What injustice was Reginald Denny perpetrating when they dragged his ass out of his truck and started to playing on his head with a cinder block, a toilet, and a fire extinguisher?
Are you saying black become civilized at a slower pace than do other races?
There's not a black alive today that was a slave and I dare say, they don't even know what discrimination is, in the face of their Jim Crow suffering ancestors. They have preferential treatment in employment, in lending, in education, etc...
It's against the ing law to discriminate against a black person...and has been for a number of decades now. We have black CEO's, black Congressmen, Black mayors, Black Senators, Black Governors, you name it and there's a black doing it. Look at Oprah for God's sake! Queen of the ing universe!
There's no discrimination against blacks. There is, however, discrimination against thugs.
What social inequities do they suffer today?
That's bull . They're dragging out the race card for as long as they can because they believe it justifies their atrocious actions.
Like I said, are you suggesting blacks are becoming civilized at a slower pace?You're wrong. Whites have never been so weak-willed as to fall prey to the mob mentality (well, except for all of the lynching.....)
A mob of 10,000 whites took sledgehammers to the county jailhouse doors to get at these two young blacks accused of raping a white girl; the girl’s uncle saved the life of a third by proclaiming the man’s innocence. Although this was Marion, Ind., most of the nearly 5,000 lynchings do ented between Reconstruction and the late 1960s were perpetrated in the South. (Hangings, beatings and mutilations were called the sentence of “Judge Lynch.”) Some lynching photos were made into postcards designed to boost white supremacy, but the tortured bodies and grotesquely happy crowds ended up revolting as many as they scared. Today the images remind us that we have not come as far from barbarity as we’d like to think.
Ok, I could go ahead and quote several of your above points and have an arguement that would lead nowhere, but instead let's take this a step at a time.
Would you agree that there are more lower income folks incarcerated than high income, and this could be directly attributed to their standard of living?
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