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    they destroyed our will to play td4mvp3's Avatar
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    the loss to golden state would normally point to needing to change the roster ... except the team won 67 games. the 1-8 loss might carry less sting considering the sonics, who pulled off an equally dubious accomplishment, made it to the finals the next year ... except the mavs made it to the finals the year before and choked four straight games after going up 2-0. dirk obviously showed he needs help to make it to the le ... except last year's team knocked off the long-hated spurs with him being a monster. where do they and can they go from here? there don't seem to be any obvious fixes for a team that obviously is broken somewhere.

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    no

    the knicks do

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    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    They're still a fantastic team. There are teams out there with a way worse situation right now...

    Minnesota
    Boston - They just suck ass
    Sacramento
    Atlanta - Their management is terrible
    Detroit
    New York
    etc...

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    Erm.. no!
    Besides Cuban throwing out money there's nothing bad considering the Mavs as a team. They still have the guys to go deep into the play-offs. Only concern should be a true PG with a pass first mentality, this should boost the team. The reason they choked against GSW is just that they do not match up with them and with Avery still learning how to cope with run and gun teams. Anything else than a Mavs - Spurs WCF next year would be a surprise for me.

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    Never thought anybody here knows Kalmah! Thumbs up!

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    My money is on the Mavs coming back in a big way next year. They're still one of the most dangerous teams out there.

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    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    Never thought anybody here knows Kalmah! Thumbs up!
    yeah. They kick ass.

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    My money is on the Mavs coming back in a big way next year. They're still one of the most dangerous teams out there.
    Not until they get a bigman who can score inside.

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    Healthy Suns team>>>>Mavs

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    Not until they get a bigman who can score inside.
    A bigman would make them much more solid but they will still be a huge threat to any team whether they get a bigman or not. They didn't need a scoring bigman to beat the Spurs.

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    A bigman would make them much more solid but they will still be a huge threat to any team whether they get a bigman or not. They didn't need a scoring bigman to beat the Spurs.
    They need a scoring bigman to win a championship. In this league you need interior offense or you wont win a le. Look back at all the championship teams. Outside of MJ's bulls name me a team who won a le without a low post presence of some kind?

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    They need a scoring bigman to win a championship. In this league you need interior offense or you wont win a le. Look back at all the championship teams. Outside of MJ's bulls name me a team who won a le without a low post presence of some kind?
    I didn't say they would win the championship. I said they will be back. They still pose the biggest threat to Spurs and that's what matters to me the most.

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    I didn't say they would win the championship. I said they will be back. They still pose the biggest threat to Spurs and that's what matters to me the most.
    The west isnt just about the Spurs/Mavs. I refuse to act like the Suns are pretenders. Because the Mavs beat them without Amare in 06 (A guy who can easily score at will in the paint against them and was basically the big reason they lost that series) yet lost to a healthy suns team in 05 that makes them a 3rd wheel? The Suns also gave us a tough 6 game series that could have possibly went 7 games.

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    I Drink Elephant Poop Bear Grylls's Avatar
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    They need a scoring bigman to win a championship. In this league you need interior offense or you wont win a le. Look back at all the championship teams. Outside of MJ's bulls name me a team who won a le without a low post presence of some kind?

    2004 Detroit Pistons

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    2004 Detroit Pistons
    04 Pistons had Sheed. They had some kind of inside presence. Mavs dont have any kind of inside presence

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    The west isnt just about the Spurs/Mavs. I refuse to act like the Suns are pretenders. Because the Mavs beat them without Amare in 06 (A guy who can easily score at will in the paint against them and was basically the big reason they lost that series) yet lost to a healthy suns team in 05 that makes them a 3rd wheel? The Suns also gave us a tough 6 game series that could have possibly went 7 games.
    Uh, I didn't say the West was all about the Spurs and Mavs. I said the Mavs still pose the biggest threat to the Spurs. Your point about the Suns beating the Mavs and vice versa is irrelevant.

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    Uh, I didn't say the West was all about the Spurs and Mavs. I said the Mavs still pose the biggest threat to the Spurs. Your point about the Suns beating the Mavs and vice versa is irrelevant.
    Im just saying we cant only worry about the Mavs. Gotta be ready for everyone. IMO I feel the Suns will pose a bigger threat to us than Dallas will.

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    Murdering Prostitutes Findog's Avatar
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    the loss to golden state would normally point to needing to change the roster ... except the team won 67 games. the 1-8 loss might carry less sting considering the sonics, who pulled off an equally dubious accomplishment, made it to the finals the next year ... except the mavs made it to the finals the year before and choked four straight games after going up 2-0. dirk obviously showed he needs help to make it to the le ... except last year's team knocked off the long-hated spurs with him being a monster. where do they and can they go from here? there don't seem to be any obvious fixes for a team that obviously is broken somewhere.
    Yeah, Mavs are worse off than Boston, Memphis, New York, Charlotte, Atlanta, etc.

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    Veteran confined's Avatar
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    They're still a fantastic team. There are teams out there with a way worse situation right now...

    Minnesota
    Boston - They just suck ass
    Sacramento
    Atlanta - Their management is terrible
    Detroit
    New York
    etc...
    i agree EssaySpur...and i admire your taste in music by the way
    kalmah shred like no other

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    they destroyed our will to play td4mvp3's Avatar
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    my thinking, though, had been that all of those teams know where they are deficient, and, what's more, have some hope about improving. granted, the mavs are still going to be a good team, but their ability to get over the hump depends on this season (unlike the pistons, who have won it all in this latest incarnation; or any of the bottom dwelling teams who have no expectations and thus little to lose, or have some path to follow and thus hope for their fans and team) while there is little obvious to be done to make that leap.

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    my thinking, though, had been that all of those teams know where they are deficient, and, what's more, have some hope about improving. granted, the mavs are still going to be a good team, but their ability to get over the hump depends on this season (unlike the pistons, who have won it all in this latest incarnation; or any of the bottom dwelling teams who have no expectations and thus little to lose, or have some path to follow and thus hope for their fans and team) while there is little obvious to be done to make that leap.
    just try to avoid GS in the playoffs?

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    I own Allanon mavs>spurs2's Avatar
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    04 Pistons had Sheed. They had some kind of inside presence. Mavs dont have any kind of inside presence
    You just lost all credibility with that statement. Sheed isn't a low post presence, he shoots just as many fadeaway jumpers and 3s as Dirk does.

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    04 Pistons had Sheed. They had some kind of inside presence. Mavs dont have any kind of inside presence

    Did you know Sheed and Dirk share similar back to basket go-to moves?

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    I never said Sheed was a dominant low post player. But he has shown at times he can post people up and score in the paint. Dirk never had that ability even when he tried. Hence why I said some kind of low post game. Pistons werent a pure jump shooting team like the Mavs are.

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    04 Pistons had Sheed. They had some kind of inside presence. Mavs dont have any kind of inside presence
    Please shut the up.

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