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I think we'd buy Pau Orthez before Tau Ceramica.
Or is this even possible?
Are they even for sale?
Wouldn't this resolve a lot a problems?
A European farm system with less restrictions than the NBDL Austin team seems like a good idea to me.
What think you all?
I think we'd buy Pau Orthez before Tau Ceramica.
we'd be better off buying tau though
This is interesting.
Could the Spurs evetuanlly have two farm systems?
A domestic (already have one) and foreign farm system?
The Spurs are truly separating themselves from the league as a whole.
Right now, the Lakers are the only other team that owns a NBDL league.
However, the Lakers are probably too busy trying to rebuild their NBA Roster and Franchise to even worry about their NBDL team.
The Spurs did this at the right time.
They just bought the Toros, I think that's enough for now.
Pau orthez has nothing to do with Spurs now.
All Spurs related players are gone.
The coach who has worked with Spurs during summer leagues has been fired.
i like the idea of having a euroleague team though, to send all of our players that we draft and stash....that would be money
I'd be great, but they're a top team in the euroleague. I dont think Holt has that kind of money.
It's not too practical to compare the Toros to Tau.
There is no way the Spurs would own their own european team just to have a place to stash a player or two every year...they operate much differently and there are way too many conflicts. NBA drafts 19+ and the euro leagues scout and scoop world talent at almost pre-teen levels to groom them...that why teams like Tau lock these kids into such long contracts with big buyouts...they want a return on their investment of time and resourses with these very young kids.
A listing of the net worth of the NBA's owners 2005-2006.
Owner Team Net worth
Paul Allen Portland $20 billion
Micky Arison Miami $5.3 billion
Rich DeVos Orlando $3 billion
William Davidson Detroit $2.8 billion
Glen Taylor Minnesota $1.8 billion
Melvin Simon Indiana $1.6 billion
E. Stanley Kroenke Denver $1.4 billion
Mark Cuban Dallas $1.3 billion
Herb Simon Indiana $1.2 billion
Michael E. Heisley Memphis $850 million
Robert Johnson Charlotte $750 million
Howard Schultz Seattle $700 million
Donald Sterling L.A. Clippers $500 million
Cablevision New York $494 million
Larry Miller Utah $480 million
Dan Gilbert Cleveland $478 million
Bruce Ratner New Jersey $400 million
Robert Sarver Phoenix $400 million
Jerry Buss L.A. Lakers $380 million
Wyc Grousbeck Boston $360 million
Chris Cohan Golden State $325 million
Ed Snider Philadelphia $310 million
Steve Belkin Atlanta $300 million
Maple Leaf Sports Entertainment Toronto $297 million
Jerry Reinsdorf Chicago $280 million
Herb Kohl Milwaukee $279 million
Abe Pollin Washington $180 million
George Shinn New Orleans $100 million
Joe Maloof Sacramento $100 million
Gavin Maloof Sacramento $100 million
Leslie Alexander Houston $80 million
Peter Holt San Antonio $80 million
But if the Spurs did in fact do this it would create excitement among players who dream on the NBA and the big bucks one day. They would want to play for Tau or whatever team that was bought. So at that preteen age they would be thinking of the Spurs of the NBA, that own our Euro team thus creating an advantage for us to pluck the best of the best in a far easier way.
Second, if the Spurs did want to do this the present is best. Money from the le, makes everyone rich. Holt could invest in this and while the Spurs are on top with room to grow and money to use in making us better now is the time, because who knows what happens next season or if we even break 52 wins. There is no time like the present to me.
No way.
edit: just saw 05-06 up there, so nevermind. Lmao.
Not sure how accurate the net worths are. I googled "peter holt net worth" and that's what came up on a USA Today Pro basketball link. Also, Holt is the majority owner with (I think) 37%. So there is other money behind the Spurs. However, this chart may reveal 1 reason the Spurs are always very careful with finances.
True, Holt only owns a percentage of the Spurs (I think it's actually right around 32%), so his net worth doesn't reflect the ownership groups net worth.
Anyway, is Tau for sale or something? Or why is this a discussion.
You aren't getting it. EuroSpurs would be a different organization than SASpurs. EuroSpurs players would not belong to SASpurs and would go through the draft just like they do now. The only POSSIBLE advantage they might be able to have would putting impossibly high buyouts on their Eurostar contracts to make them drop in the draft and then let SASpurs take them with late picks and then let Eurospurs waive the buyout, but EuroSpurs fans would hate them for doing it...
I was joking when I suggested it in a thread following the draft...if that makes a difference.
AT&T is another part owner of the Spurs...want to throw their net worth into the mix?...
And this conversation about Tau (or buying any other euro team) is ridiculous...ain't gonna happen.
An NBA team owning a European team would pose an interesting problem. Not falling under NBA rules the Euro team could sign underage players like say Scola or Ricky Rubio to long term contracts then hold their rights and not release them at draft age unles they were drafted by the owner NBA team, thereby giving them a big leg up on drafting a player. I could see a predatory owner like Allen or Dolan doing something like that if not addressed by the NBA.
Yes, let's add up the net worth of these ...AT&T is another part owner of the Spurs...want to throw their net worth into the mix?...
ARAMARK RBI, Inc., Raymond Joseph Barshick, Raul S. Cantu Trust, Richard Cantu Trust, Clear ChannelCommunications Inc., George C. Hixon, H.H. Sports, Ltd., IBC Capital Corporation, Sylvan Stephen Lang,James R. Leininger, Paul R. Markey, Jeanne Lang Mathews, R&B Partnership (Russell and Bruce Hill),David M. Robinson, Southwest Business Corporation, AT&T SBC Communications Inc., Felix L. Stehling, Valero Energy Corporation, Zachry Hospitality Corporation.
Yeah but we'd still but in the middle of the NBA if you went through other teams wouldn't we?Yes, let's add up the net worth of these ...
ARAMARK RBI, Inc., Raymond Joseph Barshick, Raul S. Cantu Trust, Richard Cantu Trust, Clear ChannelCommunications Inc., George C. Hixon, H.H. Sports, Ltd., IBC Capital Corporation, Sylvan Stephen Lang,James R. Leininger, Paul R. Markey, Jeanne Lang Mathews, R&B Partnership (Russell and Bruce Hill),David M. Robinson, Southwest Business Corporation, AT&T SBC Communications Inc., Felix L. Stehling, Valero Energy Corporation, Zachry Hospitality Corporation.
Why is this a discussion is something I could say for about half the topics of Spurstalk in the last couple months.
True. I thought just thought maybe the owners of Tau were looking to sell and I missed it.Why is this a discussion is something I could say for about half the topics of Spurstalk in the last couple months.
I'm sure the NBA would address it and would administer draconian Joe Smith type penalties if a team tried to cir vent them.
Damn...you beat me to it.Yes, let's add up the net worth of these ...
ARAMARK RBI, Inc., Raymond Joseph Barshick, Raul S. Cantu Trust, Richard Cantu Trust, Clear ChannelCommunications Inc., George C. Hixon, H.H. Sports, Ltd., IBC Capital Corporation, Sylvan Stephen Lang,James R. Leininger, Paul R. Markey, Jeanne Lang Mathews, R&B Partnership (Russell and Bruce Hill),David M. Robinson, Southwest Business Corporation, AT&T SBC Communications Inc., Felix L. Stehling, Valero Energy Corporation, Zachry Hospitality Corporation.
AT&T, Clear Channel, Valero, among others....pretty solid ownership financial-wise.
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