I know everyone says that Brent Barry will get better and start hitting his shots ... but what's his excuse for missing shots now? Yeah, he's on a new team but so is Beno Udrih. Udrih is shooting lights out and not only is he new to the team, it's his first time playing against any of these players. Honestly, Barry is playing like a chicken.
The Spurs got Barry to be a big time shooter in the playoffs. Now I have my doubts. If he doesn't have the courage to knock down a couple shots in November and December, what is going to happen when he's under the bright lights of the playoffs? That is going to be scary.
And for as much as we all bag on Hedo, that wuss was a much better defender and rebounder. And at least Hedo hit some shots during the regular season.
If the Spurs' brass thought that Devin Brown's playoff performance was a fluke, they should start to understand that this kids for real. He has a sweet stroke, good handles, good court vision, attacks the basket and is a superb defender. He obviously doesn't have the big name or the big contract, but this guy can play. He wasn't scared in the playoffs against the Lakers and now that he's getting a fair amount of playing time, he's showing what he can do.
I say it's time for Barry to put up or shut up. The jokes aren't funny anymore. I know the Spurs are doing well but that's no excuse for Barry to stink up the joint. If he's not going to hit shots, he has to at least play defense. Barry's best attribute is passing so far this season and while that is a great asset, the Spurs have an abundance of good passers on this team. They can do without one who can't shoot and can't defend.
Another scary thing to look at is how well Seattle is doing without him. With basically the same team minus Barry, they are now off to an incredible start. They are defending better than ever and now are able to run an up tempo game with Barry not running the point. Everyone said the Sonics would die with Barry leaving ... but the opposite has happened.
My final thought on this matter is Barry has done this before. Check out his 1998-99 stats when he was a member of the Bulls. He was under a lot of pressure (he was replacing MJ) and he folded like a cheap tent. Interestingly enough, the numbers are almost exactly the same as this year. That year he shot 39.6% from the field and 30.2% from beyond the arc. This year he's shooting 39.4% from the field and 29.9% from three-point land. He didn't snap out of it that season when the pressure was on ... why should we all be so confident that he will snap out of it this season?
Bottomline is if Barry doesn't come around, forget about him and use Brown. Brown is a dynamic player who is shooting as well as Barry ever could. Forget the name, eat the contract and make Barry watch tapes of Steve Kerr.
The Spurs have a lot of winning to do this season. No time to hold hands and coddle players who are too frightened to perform.
I would not mind a trade with him
devin brown proved he can hit shots in fourth
beno is better then I thought
give barry tell trading deadline then ship his but out of town
spurs get a expiring contract spurs then could keep brown,rose, and get scola
Um...Barry shot like 50% from the field tonight, got a big steal and hit a big 3 when the Bulls were making a run on us...I didn't see the game but listening to the radio it sounded like Barry had a good game...not as good as Devin...but...better than his other games of late.
Maybe Pop should insert Barry into the starting lineup .. you know, to build his confidence. Manu will understand.
Seriously, the Spurs are 16-3; I'm here to preach patience.
He played an average offensive game tonight.
And he also played crap defense against Piatkowski.
Big picture, whottt. His defense tonight was worse than ever. He let Piatkowski drain a three over him when he had him in one-on-one coverage on the perimeter. Pop couldn't get Brown into the game fast enough when he saw that BS.
You guys are insane.
Cut Heal
Waive Mercer
What happened? We couldn't shoot. Even with the forum Goldenboy starting.
You don't trade depth and you don't screw up chemistry.
I mean trade him for what? Shaq?
And you also don't piss on a guy that took a paycut to come here.
Classless.
Wow....can't argue with much of what timvp said but it is still early. Barry's got a different role on this team, and he's clearly not quick to adjust. I'm not worried though. He played pretty well tonight and we can afford to give him more time.
I totally agree Devin deserves his minutes if this is how he's gonna play. I don't see Pop taking such a hardline stance though. After all, he friggin started Hedo to try to get him out of a slump.
barry has 4 years left
spurs can not afford to have him suck with rose's contract especially later
spurs should pull the trigger on a good deal involving barry
I would not consider trading him at all. But with the way Devin is flourishing, it's hard to consider Barry the first swingman off the bench anymore.You guys are insane.
Cut Heal
Waive Mercer
What happened? We couldn't shoot. Even with the forum Goldenboy starting.
You don't trade depth and you don't screw up chemistry.
I mean trade him for what? Shaq?
And you also don't piss on a guy that took a paycut to come here.
Classless.
And yet, LJ traded Julius Jones for Deuce McAllister.
Inconsistent!
LJ isn't talking about trading Brent Barry -- that's ducks.
Um ... they cut Heal and waived Mercer.
Devin gave up guaranteed money from Denver to come tryout with the Spurs a couple years ago. Barry decided between $24M with state income tax and $21M without state income tax. Brown gambled on $800,000 or $0.
What's the bigger risk?
so if he keeps this up tell feb you just keep him
and let devin walk?
Why would Devin need to walk?
Speaking of Devin Brown, what's up with Pop rescuing careers from the ter? Under Pop's watch Malik went from 12th man to a top reserve, Jack from cancer to playoff assassin, and now Devin Brown from NBDL scrub to important bench player on a contender. Damn, Kevin O'Keefe must be pissed.
spurs have played 20 games almost
almost 1/4 of the season
barry needs to go OFF on sonics
he needs to do what q richardson did for suns nail 8 three's
spurs can not afford barry,devin brown,scola and rose
they have brown's bird rights but still will holt pay that pay roll?
I want a quadruple double from Barry. Actually, make it quintuple double because I want 10 threes too.
If there's no luxury tax, then I think that Holt will easily pay Brown and they'll bring over Scola. Devin isn't going to demand $5M a year or anything.they have brown's bird rights but still will holt pay that pay roll?
Maybe Barry is not this year's Hedo, he's this year's Charlie Ward.
Seriously, I think fans (and maybe Pop) are willing to give Barry even more time than than they gave Hedo. But it's also true that when Barry's shot isn't falling, the only other thing he can give you is passing, which, as was previously mentioned, is rather plentiful around the Spurs these days.
Pop's team defense philosophy is apparently not easy to learn, and Barry ain't the second coming of Scottie Pippen, so there has to be some patience there.
But the fact remains, if he's not hitting his shots, then there's nothing he gives us that we don't already get from the Devin-Beno combination.
Trade Barry for Hedo.
kori unless the new cba changes alot I see no way if spurs keep rose,barry and get scola brown will be back
rose will make money, barry still be a spur which sucked all season and can not play d
but holt will not pay anyone more because he is cheap
sorry did not see you kori post about luxury tax
One thing I don't get about Barry's shooting, even for the shots he made tonight, why is he fading away and running back down the court right after he releases? He is in such a hurry.
Though I'm not as passionate about this subject as timvp is in his rant, I do worry about his ability to handle pressure. But I'll reserve final judgement for another 15 games or so.
LMAO.
What are you pissed that spurs don't average 40 pt blowouts?
I bagged on Hedo all ing year last year from the day he was signed and was ran out of town.
Just because Barry is missing a few 3 pointers? Give me a break. Dude is not Stephen Jackson. Dude is not even Derrick Anderson. Dude is a legitimate shooter, slasher, passer and according to you, he is also a backup point guard.
Dude doesn't need to average 20, he just needs to be a threat. There are Spurs open all over the court because of the defense he draws. Lower the expectations for him a little, give him a chance to settle. He is only here to bring 7-8 ppg anyway.
Geeze.
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