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Spurs could still have about $8M in cap room next summer:
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73111
As many of you know there will be some amazing players available next summer, and the Spurs would have significant room to go after at least one. But now I keep reading how we are going to sign totally secondary players like Bonner and Vaughn to multi-year contracts!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why, why, why????
Sign them to one year or go after other players for one year and try to get another superstar next summer!!! After all Bonner and Vaughn are actually not that good at all.
Spurs could still have about $8M in cap room next summer:
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73111
Very few players are willing to accept one-year contracts when they could push for job stability by asking for contracts over multiple years.
Besides, this FO doesn't sign just anybody - they have to be willing to buy into and play within Pop's system. And risking antagonizing these 'secondary players' - most of who were instrumental in the championship run - for the sake of chasing after a big-name free agent - who may or may not sign with this team - is a bonehead move for any FO to do.
For those of us who don't know, who are the FA in 2k8?
Not to mention that the TV/media deal just went up 20%. That takes effect next summer, and could significantly bump both the cap and LTax figures upwards.
First, most of those 'amazing' players will probably sign extensions with their current squads thsi summer.
Second, when have the Spurs ever landed a big free agent with free cap room? Cap room for the Spurs is fool's gold. See: Jason Kidd, Jermaine O'Neal, Chris Webber, etc.
The Spurs are doing the right thing.
I always wonder why that happens. Is it because San Antonio is a small-market team. Over and over, these players figure they can lead a lesser team to a le as long as they are getting paid more, as if the extra money will somehow enhance their abilities. Playing on a team with Tim Duncan is like hitting the lottery - is it that blindingly obvious? I don't think these players care about winning as much as they say they do.
Bonner is not a secondary player, he is a beer seller
Uh, yeah, it took you this long to figure it out?
Most of the guys would rather have an extra two million a year than play an extra 16 games in the playoffs and win a ring.
You see it time and again in pro sports. Guys take the money first, then they sign up for the le joy ride late in their career when they've been reduced to a role player.
SA is a small market, and honestly, for a lot of these guys, it's about the ego and being the alpha dog. How can you be the alpha dog on the Spurs when it's got Tim Duncan on it?
I've been saying this all along, players like Vaughn and Bonner and garbage
and will prevent the Spurs from throwing big money at any goo players
SCUST @ Vaughn in a Spurs uni for 2 more seasons
who is this new player garbage?I've been saying this all along, players like Vaughn and Bonner and garbage
Look, I know you're one of the dumbest posters on this site, but when have the Spurs ever landed a marquee FA with big money?
Spurs front office is finally learning from past mistakes - Jason Kidd, Jermaine O'Neal, Chris Webber, among others - those were all guys offered big money (in the case of Kidd and O'Neal, they were offered the max), who didn't come.
The secret to the Spurs success comes in landing hidden talent in the draft and as part of trades, and making them better players.
Bonner arguably would have been the first big off the bench in the playoffs this year if he hadn't gotten hurt. And I'll take the talent evaluation capabilities of Pop and Co. over your dumb ass.
This sucks. I want Nocioni for the Spurs so baaaaaaad.
Bonner....bah.
No ing chance at a repeat :imo
So what you are saying is the Spurs should just accept they can't get anyone and just go for the crap guys and hope we can be a .500 team?
I guess that means the Jazz are a better organization in a better city?
they were about 20 million under the cap about 3 years ago when they landed two of the top free agents in that years crop, Boozer and Okur.
The Spurs have a winning organization with a winning at ude, all they need is the cap space and they will get some big name FA. The big difference between what happened from 2k1 - 2k3 is irrelevant today because NBA players now know the San Antonio Spurs are the premier organization in the league and those other organizations that mimic us are also having the same great success, (see Cleveland).
lol @ ppl actucally thinking we can sign another superstar in 08, young ppl don't want to play in SA, and we already have 3 superstars, why the do we need more??? we don't need another superstar, we need younger role players that complement tim, tony, and manu, not someone that is gonna come in and want to take over.......... ppl need to realize that young star players don't want to come here no matter how much money we have, the only way to get a young star player is if we pick in the lottery
the spurs are doing a decent job in keeping the team together and giving out contracts that won't make much of an impact on our supposed 08 plan..........
8 million is not enough for a superstar next summer.
if darko is asking for 10 million this summer...the likes of Brand, Arenas, etc...are definitely out of the question....
While we don't know all the details of the Oberto, Vaughn, and Bonner contracts yet, they will probably be reasonable. Even if the Spurs could land a big name free agent next year, they would still have to put together a full roster. The FO had a good look at these players and liked what they saw, so they signed them for a fair price. Sounds good to me.
Cleveland is having 'great success'?
I think you're wrong in believing that the league is split between 'big name free agents' and 'crap guys.'
Quite often, big names turn out to be just as crappy, and cost you a lot more. Starbury, Francis, Webber, jeezus the list gets long fast...
And as for Boozer and Okur, yes Boozer is a catch, but Okur is a crap guy (or at least way overpaid). So I don't see how you can use the Jazz for your argument.
Most of the 'big names' would not fit in here because they'd have to defer to Tim too much. They like being the highest-paid big dog, because they believe this equals "respect." The fact that it rarely leads to championships seems to elude them entirely. So 'em. We don't need 'em. SA does a good job getting guys who know their roles--i.e., always subordinate to TD--and play hard.
There's not much evidence to back this up. Sure, we haven't signed a superstar since we drafted Duncan - but A LOT of teams haven't either. The Mavs haven't signed a superstar outright in a long time, Phoenix got Nash and hasn't landed a huge free agent since, and the Lakers - supposedly the top destination in the NBA - haven't landed a prime free agent since Shaq in the late 90s.
The way the CBA is situated nowadays, it's a relatively rare occurence for a truly great player to move teams via free agency.
The way most great players move teams is a) via trade or b) they are signed to a contract vastly above their actual production, then explode in their new location (i.e. Boozer). Of course, for every Boozer there are 5 Dalembert's who remain long on potential, but never do get it together.
thanks for proving to everyone how stupid you are
stick to the WNBA moron
well i'm basing it off the fact that when we tried to get a big name guy, they didn't come, one year we had to settle for derek anderson, and another time we had to settle for rasho......... so i doubt we'll get any superstar.......... and i don't get why everyone thinks we need one, we just need younger role players, which we'll be able to do next year with nice cap space......
LOL
Jermain O'Neal, Jason Kidd, even Sharif Abdul Rahim didn't want any part of SA
no one like to come to SA, the Spurs needed picks like Parker and Manu to pan out
i'm guessing you didn't watch much spurs games, cause what aggie said there isn't a reach........... bonner was playing pretty badass, he was scoring, he was rebounding, he was playing decent defense
Bonner's lack of defensive positioning and cohesiveness is his biggest obstacle to overcome next season. If his defense improves to the level the Spurs need, he'll be a big addition in the playoffs next year over this year given he's healthy.
Cleveland is having 'great success'?
I think you're wrong in believing that the league is split between 'big name free agents' and 'crap guys.'
Quite often, big names turn out to be just as crappy, and cost you a lot more. Starbury, Francis, Webber, jeezus the list gets long fast...
And as for Boozer and Okur, yes Boozer is a catch, but Okur is a crap guy (or at least way overpaid). So I don't see how you can use the Jazz for your argument.
Most of the 'big names' would not fit in here because they'd have to defer to Tim too much. They like being the highest-paid big dog, because they believe this equals "respect." The fact that it rarely leads to championships seems to elude them entirely. So 'em. We don't need 'em. SA does a good job getting guys who know their roles--i.e., always subordinate to TD--and play hard.
hey buddy im pretty sure going to the finals is pretty damn successful...they just ran into the big bad wolf(spurs). it all depends if the spurs repeat...if the spurs repeat 5 rings in 10 years!!!(4 out of last 6) i dont see why anybody wouldnt want to play for the spurs..it depends who they go after but dont expect them to get a gilbert arenas, or kg, or those big time superstars....spurs can easily get a shawn marion type caliber player...somebody whos been the 2nd or 3rd option..and th spurs can offer a pretty decent contract to go along with a chance for a le..only an idiot will turn down that...aka kidd and webber...havent done a damn thing since turning down the spurs..if the spurs offer u a chane to get pt and money..u better ing take advantage of that oppurtunity.. es
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