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Actually, they could both get spots. Since White was already on the roster, he's counted as one of your 14.
Williams could be #15.
the spurs after signing vaughn, bonner, and oberto will have 1 spot left on the roster. the final spot will most likely go to one of these guys.
who do you think gets the roster spot?
who do you feel is the better fit?
who do YOU want making the roster?
Actually, they could both get spots. Since White was already on the roster, he's counted as one of your 14.
Williams could be #15.
Well, the Spurs could simply sign Williams right now and keep both. The only reason they'd have to cut one is if they wanted to bring in another player.
That being said, if I had to cut one player right now it would be Marcus Williams. James White has at least shown that he is a capable player at this level and deserves to be in the NBA from his time on the court. Williams has never played a single minute in a game. But if you ask me in a few months once training camp and Summer League are over my answer might be very different. But at this point, Williams has shown nothing while White has shown at least a little.
White.
I'll have a better idea in seven hours.
but in the ludden article it says the spurs can waive him so they dont have to pay him $300,000 that is left on his contract. i say for $300,000 keep him on the team regardless and send marcus in and out of the D-league like white last year.
i feel that, with that extra year advantage in the spurs system white is already ahead of most fighting for a roster spot. it seems he is also a loveable guy in the locker room judging by his antics and how he was embraced at the alamodome championship rally by the team.
I understand that after the summer league we will have a better idea on who is the best fit, and i guess i misinterpreted that there was only 1 playoff spot. i just wanted to know who everyone will be rooting for as the primary bowen backup.
At this point, I think it's too early to answer that. Yes, we've caught a good glimpse of White during this past season and he shows promise. As for Williams, he may need the mandatory 1-year internship before we'll know what he has.
However, let's take a look at both Williams and White during summer league play and before answering that one.
Which of the two would I most like to keep?
That's a tough one.
IMO, Williams is the more well-rounded player, with less projectability to being a productive player in this league. But, he needs to answer the questions about his at ude and work ethic by being a diligent worker in practice and off the court.
White has farther to go to be a productive offensive player, as he is more of an athlete right now than an actual baskeball player. But, he has shown that he is willing to work hard and be aggressive. As long as he settles into a niche (perimeter defender), I don't think he has to take his game to a greater level to stick with this team.
As of now, I'd agree with DW that White is the guy to keep because he's shown the willingness to learn and work hard to improve.
But I think both should be retained as both are likely to fill different roles in the future.
sounds good to me. mostly everyone will be a subconsious fan of one of these guys and hoping they make the team over the other. i just wanted someone to root for during summer leagues and i will most likely be rooting for james white. just wanted to see how others felt about these two and who they wanted to make the team.
I understand that White can be waived, and it's not out of the realm of possibility that the Spurs go with a guy like Charles Lee or Melzer over one of these two guys...I just think it's most likely that they keep both.
As far as who will be the "Bowen backup", White fits that role the best.
But there will also be room after next year for backup SG, with Fin and Barry likely out the door....and that could easily be Williams.
Both will be signed, and Williams will spend a large part of the season in Austin.
If you had to choose, Williams has greater potential as a scorer, and has shown the ability to defend 1-3. White of course has incredible athleticism, and I think more importantly, the correct mentality defensively. The pressure would be on White, because he has had a year under the system to grow, and if his performance didn't reflect that, he might receive less leniency than a rookie who left after his sop re season.
Personally, I will be rooting for James White, Jackie Butler, Marcus Williams and Viktor Sanikidze the hardest. I hope all of those players have a potentially long career with the Spurs. Realistically though, I think one of the four will be an above average player (not sure how above average...it could be a lot though, or not so much) one will be a solid role player, one will be a bust, and another will never sniff an NBA court.
Butler and Williams probably have the most potential to be the above average player. But they also can just as easily be the bust.
James White could bust, but will most likely be a solid role player in this league.
Sanikidze could carve out a nice role in the NBA...or he could never leave Europe.
Ideally, they all realize their potential and become above average players. But not likely.
IMO, Williams needs to find his jumpshot again (which disappeared last year) before anyone can say he'll have a better career than White.
As of now, I think Williams is clearly the more talented player, but he'll need to show the ability and more importantly, the willingness, to improve his game.
And on the subject of jumpshots, Parker has proven that it's something you can learn while in the league. If White works hard enough at it, he can become a well-rounded player to go along with that sick athleticism.
I really think that unless one of these guys looks absolutely horrible in Summer League that they'll both make the roster. The Spurs just have such a massive hole at the wing slots next season they really need to hedge for the future. One young guy could easily not fulfill his potential, but the likelyhood of getting one contributor out of two possible candidates is much better.
While his mechanics are not the best, Williams managed to shoot 49% from the field, despite shooting under 30% from three-point range.
this is all great information guys. i cant wait till 3pm to see these guys in action. thanks for the info.
I agree with your argument, White has shown more than Williams, but I disagree with your conclusion. Williams has shown nothing, but Beno is the gentleman to get rid of. Beno has shown he does not have the strength of will/character to play for a championship team.
James White.
I think Williams is going to be one of those players that three years from now the media will be saying "how do those Spurs keep finding those overlooked great players in the second round?
I'm confident the Spurs did their homework on him.
My guess is that the front office would be the first to tell you that he's a high-risk pick. The Spurs provide a lot of structure and don't really have any bad influences on the team, so they have a good chance of helping him become the player he has the potential to be.
But as Beno, for example, demonstrates, all the coaching and positive team atmosphere in the world won't help a guy if he's not willing to make the commitment and do the work. It's up to him to prove that he wants to be a real NBA player. We'll have to see how Williams responds.
The fact that White has stuck with the program for a year gives him the edge for me, at least at this point.
Williams is a better rebounder, which is nice.
But I see no reason they both won't be on the team next year.
me too
i don't think the spurs draft williams with the 33 rd pick to cut him then ...
White
So he was a little miffed about his PT in college. Jack beat up fans in the stands and squeezed off a clip in the parking lot of a strip club. Spurs fans have an interesting definition of what cons utes a 'problem child' nowadays.
Id like to see White return and Wiliams go to the Toros for a while. Melzer and the rest make the summer league interesting.
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