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    The ocean is having a hard time cooling costal regions contributing to high temps all the way to Canada, but global warming isn't real, so

    PARTY ON!

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    The ocean is having a hard time cooling costal regions contributing to high temps all the way to Canada, but global warming isn't real, so

    PARTY ON!
    Manmade global warming isn't real. Carry on.

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    Yeah, global warming just happens - 'Blame it on the Sun Republicans' tm

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    Yeah, global warming just happens - 'Blame it on the Sun Republicans' tm
    Yeah, the sun has a habit of heating things up.

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    Yeah, the sun has a habit of heating things up.
    Actually, the suns contribution to the temperature pales in comparison to the earth's molten core, and most periods of global warming and cooling are most likely primarily caused by shifts in the magnetic fields and the earth's changing axial tilt.

    But I love that this map is supposed to convince us of global warming, when man-made global warming has been attributed something like a 1.2 degree celsius increase. Like 4 degrees F at most. Wouldn't make a very big difference on that map.

    A better show would be to show the temperatures below freezing during winter in either hemisphere from a polar viewpoint, since that is by far more important to the cataclysmic events alarmists predict.

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    But I love that this map is supposed to convince us of global warming, when man-made global warming has been attributed something like a 1.2 degree celsius increase. Like 4 degrees F at most. Wouldn't make a very big difference on that map.
    There's no exact science that is gonna tell you some mathematical ratio between man-made versus global created climate change, the only thing we can do is look at it's effects so far - receeding glaciers, melting poles, warming ocean temps to know that somethings not right. Whatever your opinions on the cause, the costs/benefits of acting on a false assumption (that man can affect temp change) are much less than failing to act on a assumption that turns out to be very real...

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    There's no exact science that is gonna tell you some mathematical ratio between man-made versus global created climate change, the only thing we can do is look at it's effects so far - receeding glaciers, melting poles, warming ocean temps to know that somethings not right.
    How do we know it's not right? Hasn't the earth been warmer than it is now? Indeed, hasn't the earth been cooler than it is now, as well?

    From what perspective do you draw the conclusion that something isn't right? Simply because humans, in their limited experience on this billions of years old planet are experiencing a change in climate that, in all likelihood, has occurred before -- more than once?

    Whatever your opinions on the cause, the costs/benefits of acting on a false assumption (that man can affect temp change) are much less than failing to act on a assumption that turns out to be very real...
    Actually, a little warming would increase the growing seasons in a lot of places. Algore-ish cataclysms are the far-out speculation of a mad man.

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    There's no exact science that is gonna tell you some mathematical ratio between man-made versus global created climate change, the only thing we can do is look at it's effects so far - receeding glaciers, melting poles, warming ocean temps to know that somethings not right. Whatever your opinions on the cause, the costs/benefits of acting on a false assumption (that man can affect temp change) are much less than failing to act on a assumption that turns out to be very real...
    I'm not arguing that point. I'm a firm believer in "it's better to be safe than sorry", and the world is doing exactly that. Heck, the US has cut projected carbon emissions by a greater percentage than most of the Kyoto countries. There's no doubt that we should work to cut emissions.

    I was just pointing out that the map you provide, of hot temperatures of a single day in summer, is useless to prove this point. The map would have looked nearly identical 50 years ago.

    If you show a polar view at winter showing below freezing temperatures between now and 50 years ago, you would get a much clearer picture of the effects the slight rise in temperature would have.

    Though I still like the fact that global temperatures would have to rise at the same rate for something like the next 200 years to be equivalent to the warmest temperatures have been since "society" began 8000 years ago.

    Which is why I don't feel the changes to reduce carbon emissions need to be forced.

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    The ocean is having a hard time cooling costal regions contributing to high temps all the way to Canada, but global warming isn't real, so

    PARTY ON!
    Hey dan, you dummy, how do you like the nice cool
    summer we are having here in San Antonio? Is that
    because of "global warming". If so bring it back next
    year, will you. I haven't had to water the old lawn
    all summer and here we are in July........

    And I hate to break it to you, but that is dessert
    country and it "trends" to get a little warm there
    in the summer. Ever hear of Death Valley. Just
    checking.

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    There's no exact science that is gonna tell you some mathematical ratio between man-made versus global created climate change, the only thing we can do is look at it's effects so far - receeding glaciers, melting poles, warming ocean temps to know that somethings not right. Whatever your opinions on the cause, the costs/benefits of acting on a false assumption (that man can affect temp change) are much less than failing to act on a assumption that turns out to be very real...

    Hey dummy, what is normal temperature for earth. Do you have any idea. I thought not, google hard, really hard.
    You wont find it.

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    Hey dan, you dummy, how do you like the nice cool
    summer we are having here in San Antonio? Is that
    because of "global warming". If so bring it back next
    year, will you. I haven't had to water the old lawn
    all summer and here we are in July........

    And I hate to break it to you, but that is dessert
    country and it "trends" to get a little warm there
    in the summer. Ever hear of Death Valley. Just
    checking.
    Actually there's some evidence that global warming has caused all the rainfall here. Shifting wind patterns, greater general humidity, etc. All should be side effects of global warming whether man caused or not.

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    Actually there's some evidence that global warming has caused all the rainfall here. Shifting wind patterns, greater general humidity, etc. All should be side effects of global warming whether man caused or not.
    Okay, I will still accept the nice rain and cool summer,
    well for Texas, it hasn't even hit 95 yet, as I recall, but
    we still have a lot of summer left. Oooooppps, I said
    left.

    And the earth may well be heating up, but I don't think
    man has a lot to do with it. Man is just too blasted
    vain and wants to take credit for things where no credit
    is due.

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    Why do I imagine that Xray looks like Grandpa Simpson?

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    Why do I imagine that Xray looks like Grandpa Simpson?
    Is he goodlooking too? (or is it also).

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    Why do I imagine that Xray looks like Grandpa Simpson?
    I think the bigger question is why do you imagine what Xray looks like, at all?

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    Yeah and Yoni he gives us a link that has the bandwidth of a
    human hair. It keeps timing out........sheeeeesh.

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    Again, seriously, why is XRay's appearance even crossing your mind?

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    cuz he's insane.

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    You mean, insane, in a good way?

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    Is there a doctor in the house?

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    Hal is one of these guys...Thompson .45...Leather neck...Flushing the bad guys out of the foxhole...

    (While some hippie type stays home with his “give peace a chance bumper sticker")...

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    The ocean is having a hard time cooling costal regions contributing to high temps all the way to Canada, but global warming isn't real, so
    There are more likely other factors attributing to the ocean's warmth if that's the case. With the greater than normal Arctic melting, the ocean currents are affected. The fresh water changes the density and flow.

    Remember. Everything in nature has cycles. To conclude that it is all caused by man is rather ignorant.

    Everything I have studied about global warming tells me it is primarily driven by various sun activities. The only man-made warming that can be agreed on in the scientific community is China's burning of coal in the quan ies and lack of cleanliness that they do it by. Soot is depositing on the northern ice and melting from the extra heat the black absorbs. With less reflective ice and more absorbing ocean water, the earth is keeping more energy from the sun! This is most probably why the ocean is warming!

    CO2 has absolutely no effect on adding to troposphere heat. It increases heat at a lower al ude, but all historical satellite temperature measurements of the troposphere remain unchanged. It can attribute to more severe weather in theory.

    Never see the alarmists tell us about the troposphere’s temperature, now do we? If CO2 causing global warming was real, we would see it in troposphere temperature readings. But no…. The alarmists like to use thermometers, which are influenced by urban growth.

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    The ocean is having a hard time cooling costal regions contributing to high temps all the way to Canada, but global warming isn't real, so

    PARTY ON!

    This is just not good reasoning. If you believe that it is, prepare yourself for when it is cold to hear how false global warming is.

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