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Maybe ask this when the board isn't having a collective fit.
Tough call but if they played in the same era, I think the Iceman would still get his 30. Your thoughts?
Maybe ask this when the board isn't having a collective fit.
I believe Bowen would frustrate Ice somewhat, but over the course of a full game - it wouldn't matter. Remember Ice could score on anyone - ANYONE!
I think Ice would.
Then again, Bowen might too....Ice wasn't known for his D.
Bowen could contain ice for a while but in the end Iceman would probably get his fair share of points
Ice would score...but Bowen would too. Iceman couldn't play defense if his life depended on it.
Great question.
Ice is arguably the best high PCT scoring 2 guard in NBA history...Jordan is probably #1...but Ice actually finished with a higher PCT, and at the time of his retirment he was a freak ranking only behind Wilt in scoring les.
Bruce is arguably one of the greatest perimeter defenders in NBA history...and for once, Bruce wouldn't be physically mismatched against the guy he is defending....which he almost always is and is still one of the greatest defenders ever...
That said...
Gervin wasn't really a perimeter scorer...and there's a reason there still hasn't been anyone quite like him...Bruce would play tougher defense than Ice is used too...but always remember...George could finger roll. And they didn't call him Ice because he was easy to piss off and frustrate. Those are the differences...Ice wins the battle.
Ice himself said he'd drop (I think) 40 on bruce.
Didn't Ice lead the league's shooting guards in blocked shots one year?I think Ice would.
Then again, Bowen might too....Ice wasn't known for his D.
Ice 4-27 11 points max.
Nowadays that finger roll BS would get swatted into the 10th row.
Ice gets his points, but Ice's team loses. That's what Bowen does. He makes you work for everything and focus on your matchup with him.
Kobe almost always gets his 30, but Bowen makes him put up 27-28 shots to do it, when Kobe gets it on 20 shots against other teams. Bowen turns his ball hog tendencies against the Lakers.
yeh that
ppl tend to underestimate bowen on defense
he could give jordan, gervin misfits.....look at the type of players bowen has contained over the years
Iceman vs. Bowen -> ICEMAN 37 pts.
Iceman vs. Bowen + Duncan -> Iceman 19 pts
ICE would dropstep on Bruce all night and get a easy 30
That's true but Ice would also tell you he could go for 50 on Jesus.
Gervin><Bowen - game situation
Gervin>Bowen - one-on-one
Remember too that the NBA game was a much more physical brand of basketball back in Ice's day. Defenders were allowed much more leeway than now. Ice ate them all alive.....and he would eat Bruce too.
Ice would just shoot more. He would get his 30 ! Instead of getting 30 on 22 FGA, he might have to shoot 30 times.
thats what Bowen does to Kobe
you guys tend to overrate these high scoring players
we all know bruce bowen doesnt show his final cards when he is force toankle breaker
Oh snap can you imagine Bowen playing with that kind of leeway? Kobe held to 4 pts on 2-25 and 0 FTA.
Bowen's job is to make scorers work. Ice might score, but his team will have a hard time winning.
Yeah, just like Tony's teardrop is always swatted.... oh, wait, nevermind. The finger roll would still be just as deadly. I wonder how many who are picking Bowen are under 40 years of age or so and never saw Gervin play.
Ice would get his. Where he would kill Bruce is with the mid range jumper that was just as effective as his finger role. Ice was perfectly happy to knock it down from 14 feet all night long just as much as he was driving for layup/finger rolls or hitting longer jumpers. Remember that the one flaw in the Spurs D is the mid range jumper because the design is to D up on the guy on the outside and force him to drive to the hole against Duncan. The guys that can make that move past Bowen on the outside and just pull up and hit that shot can kill the Spurs. The thing is in the 3 point era there are very few mid range shooters and the ones that do exist typically don't drive to the hole. In Gervin's day you had to be a strong mid range shooter and he absolutely was deadly if you gave him space from inside 20 feet. He would kill you just as much as if you let him drive. Also remember that the finger roll was so great because it was so crafty and hard to block. He knew exactly how to slip it by someone because the release was earlier than a traditional layup and so the blocks were almost always mis-timed. Ice's game was all about finesse, he was so hard to stop because he played so differently than anyone else and was able to hurt you in so many ways. That and he had unshakable confidence to go with an unshakable cool, you just couldn't frustrate or discourage him.
In the same era? That means allowed hand-checking right? Ice wouldnt score more than 25 in the game, but 15 points max.
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