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    Hoopshype is all I know but they usually are real late with updates.

    What are others?

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    Actually hoopshype has been rather good about updating their salaries this summer.

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    A couple of things to note and reiterate...from the above related thread on the Spurs current salary position:

    A post Butler analysis of the luxury tax situation:

    Tim Duncan -- $19,014,188
    Tony Parker -- $10,500,000
    Manu Ginobili -- $9,079,811
    Brent Barry -- $5,544,370
    Bruce Bowen -- $4,125,000
    Robert Horry -- $3,630,000
    Fabricio Oberto -- $3,167,420
    Michael Finley -- $3,103,000
    Francisco Elson -- $3,000,000
    Matt Bonner -- $2,750,000
    Beno Udrih -- $1,747,096
    Jacque Vaughn - $1,219,590 ($770,610 against the luxury tax)

    $66,431495 against the tax for 12 players
    The Luxury tax threshold is $67.865M, Spurs are $1.43M.
    Mahinmi should cost $938,760 (he could cost less but it's unlikely).
    Marcus Williams cost $427,163.
    James White cost $770,610.

    So if Spurs wants to go under the tax and if they sign Mahinmi, they had to waive James White but they can keep Marcus Williams.
    Excellent picture of where the Spurs are....provided Spanoulis' $1.9M salary is eradicated. Let's just take Ian Mahinmi, James White and Marcus Williams out of the picture momentarily and look at the depth chart:

    Parker.......Finley........Bowen.........Duncan... ......Oberto
    Vaughn.....Ginobili.........................Horry. ..........Elson
    Udrih........Barry..........................Bonner ...................

    Now, fill the holes in at the backup 3 and 5 positions without going over the the Lux Tax threshold. You have $1.4M to work with, without Mahinmi, White or Williams.


    Moving Barry would solve the cap issues.

    I guess that would actually require another team wanting Barry.

    But his price tag really isn't that high, and I think he's still capable of bringing a lot to a team.
    Chopper, timvp and others have pointed this out but if you want a SF like a Matt Barnes or Ime Udoka, you are going to need to move somebody under contract and Beno alone ($1.7M) won't do it.

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    How about signing Udoka or Barnes because he'd be a good pickup and not dumping someone else?

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    I just posted the summary above...not because it is any revelation or new data...but because of several people's comments lately with suggestions, hopes, etc. that put the Spurs well above the Tax penalty line.

    How about signing Udoka or Barnes because he'd be a good pickup and not dumping someone else?
    I think you know the answer to that one.

    Barnes wants $5M, probably won't get it. He's worth at least $3-3.5M/yr.
    Udoka wants $3M/yr. (we think)

    Then add low-cost players (under $1M each) in like Mahinmi and White and you end up $3.3M or more over the tax line.

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    Time to rub the rosary.

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    I'll let you do that one Mr. Sarcastic.

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    I just posted the summary above...not because it is any revelation or new data...but because of several people's comments lately with suggestions, hopes, etc. that put the Spurs well above the Tax penalty line.



    I think you know the answer to that one.

    Barnes wants $5M, probably won't get it. He's worth at least $3-3.5M/yr.
    Udoka wants $3M/yr. (we think)

    Then add low-cost players (under $1M each) in like Mahinmi and White and you end up $3.3M or more over the tax line.
    And while guys like Udoka and Barnes MAY be worth $3-4M per year, they're certainly not worth the $6-8M that it would actually cost the Spurs.

    Barry seems like the only logical piece to be moved if the Spurs do indeed go out and get a significant salary like Udoka or Barnes.

    Caveat: If the Spurs could manage to get one of those players to commit for significantly below their market value, it would lessen the need to make as big a move as trading Barry for $$$.

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