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He was supposed to be the next Sean Elliot.
I know this has been talked about in the past
bUt whats your take on drafting Marcus Williams out of nowhere.
Is he suppose to be groomed to be the next what?
He was mediocre in college and its so UN SPURS like to draft someone like that when they can just pick up a Amir Johnson, Speedy claxton, jacque vaughn, etc to plug in. They always find someone like Anthony Carter to come in.
Why Marcus Williams?
I still dont get it.
Marcus Williams is a Summer League type Invite player who goes undrafted and gets invited to try out, like CJ Watson was but CJ is actually better!
No OTHER team had Marcus Williams on their draft radar.
Big Baby was there, so were many others better.
On draft day, I was like WHY?????????
Im still puzzled. He is not even going to make the team I bet and if the Spurs cut him, I doubt anyone else will sign him. Who will sign him??? no one.
But really, Why marcus williams when you already have
BENO, JACQUE and PARKER signed.
and then again, its the first USA born draft player for the spurs in many years.
Did he workout for the Spurs before the draft and score 80 on Budholdzer?
Did Sean Elliot hype him up? lol
Did Pop check him out? I cant believe Pop would ok , getting Marcus Williams at #33 of 60 ----- whatever.
Still puzzled on this pick.
Makes no ing sense at all.
No one has given me an argument as to his purpose or what you see in him.
I can understand if he has some unique talent like Amazing Speed or amazing passing but lacks in other places that can be worked on BUT Marcus Just plain lacks in ALL categories with no strengths at all.
He is just a common player and not even the star in Arizona.
Mustafa Shakur was better at Arizona and he didnt get drafted this year.
To me, Marcus Williams is the next coming of Mateen Cleaves for god sakes.
Hopefully Im wrong
Last edited by spurscenter; 07-21-2007 at 07:35 AM.
He was supposed to be the next Sean Elliot.
Oh no you didn't
But really, Why marcus williams when you already have
BENO, JACQUE and PARKER signed.
Williams isn't a PG.
Just because it's annoying me you keep mentioning point guards...
http://www.nba.com/draft2007/profile...sWilliams.html
He's a wing, so Udrih, Vaughn, and Parker are irrelevant.
And the answer is he's supposed to be an athletic wing with a good mid-range game, capable of taking people off the dribble and shoot threes, and play decent defense. He was drafted because the Spurs are getting to be in desperate need of youth at the wings. Other than James White and Marcus WIlliams, the youngest Spur wing is Manu, who turns 30 later this month.
Supposed to be the best defensive SF at that spot (33). They worked him out.
When you figure in that they had probably decided that they were going to stay with the Championship roster--for the first time in Duncan's career by the way--maybe they figured the 33 pick was a throw-away anyway since they have an athletic young wing in White who's got a year in the system.
If he didn't shine in summer league and at camp, then who's gonna argue when he gets cut. Deep and mysterious are the ways of the Spurs FO at draft time.
I'm looking more and more like an idiot every time I talk of the kid, but if you'll be patient with him, I think you got yourselves a winner.
He's 20 years old, and has had his head screwed on backwards by friends, family and agents about the League. And while he has truly been terrible in summer league, again, his Arizona squad was 9-2 when Marcus scored 20 points or more.
I can't say why he's this bad right now. I'm certain it's mental. Which is why you have to stick with him for a year. sign him and ship him to the NBDL and see if he can't get straightened out.
Just about any Arizona fan will tell you this kid has been the best pure scorer to pass through UA since Arenas. Just give him some time.
Or cut your losses and ax his ass now. It's not like some draft picks don't require a little more developing than others.
TWO MOTHER ING T'S ON ELLIOTT. FOR S SAKE GET IT RIGHT
Having been able to watch him on some better TV broadcasts recently that actually allow me to see the action I'm feeling a bit better about Williams. He clearly has shown very little in SL but has some nice raw skills. He looks like he could be a quality defender and if somebody would teach him how to properly shoot a basketball he might just pan out. He s that ball way to far back and has a slooooow release. But hopefully that can be resolved.
I agree. I hate it when stupid people can't spell Shawn Elliott's name right.
Williams was on every single mock draft as a late first or early second round pick. After Rudy Fernadez was drafted at #23 and Morris Almond at #24, the talent level dropped off considerably and was pretty much a crap shoot after that.
Even late first round from 21-30 is always a crap shoot with only about 15-20% ever making it as solid NBA talent. By the time you get to the second round, the odds are even higher that the pick won't work out.
Since he was pretty much a consensus first round pick at SF, albeit in the lower third, you'd have had second guessers going crazy if the Spurs hadn't taken him.
I'd have taken Big Baby. But then again, they probably didn't know at the time they were going to dump the other Big Baby, JButt.
spurscenter starting threads, WHY?
From others analysis of the Summer league games, apparently he shows a lot of defensive skill. Something like 4 or 5 blocks in one game. Assuming this assessment is true, they might be grooming him for a "Dirk stopper" type of role player. I'm not saying that's the case, but that seems like a good guess. But again, he might not even make the team this year...
When you try to bring such a strong opinion about a player, at least google it and find out what position he plays.
Hahahaha I needed that laugh thanks.I agree. I hate it when stupid people can't spell Shawn Elliott's name right.
Um....no. Everyone in Tucson is thrilled that he's gone. Also, this statement implies that he's a better scorer than Salim was which would be a gross overstatement. I don't know what Arizona fans you're talking about that like him so much and love his scoring abilities, but the ones who are here in Tucson and attended all the games are really excited to stop watching Marcus shoot 4 of 14 from the field and stagnating the offense.
That was my assessment. And he really did impress me. His shooting stroke is obviously flawed, but he showed some impressive defensive ability. He was blocking shots that whole game...on Thaddeus Young, the number 12 pick. While most of his games in the SL were horrible he looked downright impressive that night. Even though he shot like 4-14 he contributed a lot in other areas. I think he had like 4 assists that game too (and that wasn't by my count, that was the official stat sheet).
are you serious shakur was better then williams did you watch any uofa games
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Mustafa Shakur was better at Arizona and he didnt get drafted this year.
To me, Marcus Williams is the next coming of Mateen Cleaves for god sakes.
Hopefully Im wrong
I wouldn't say Shakur was better at U of A this season, but he certainly has had a much stronger summer showing for the Kings SL than Marcus has for us and would have fit what I feel is a more pressing need for the Spurs. If we had tabbed Staf at 58 he could have easily been the #3 point and come at a significantly cheaper rate than Beno.
you, you in' . There's no spellcheck. And who really gives a about Sean Elliott (!) anyway - great color guy, hit one shot to put the team over the top in the 90s, and sucked away the mid-90s with TC. Get off your in' high horse.
Wow, can you get any lamer?
The original poster was trying to be funny because we always bring up here that no one spells Elliott right.
And as for who gives a about Sean Elliott - you should! He gave a couple million dollars out of his pocket as a loan to the organization to build a state of the art practice facility. A practice facility that helps keep the Spurs players healthy, in shape and bonded as a team.
And even if you want to discount everything he's done on the court and in the San Antonio community, he's about as diehard of a Spurs fan as you can get.
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