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    http://www.azcentral.com/sports/colu...2main0802.html
    Bob Young
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    Aug. 2, 2007 12:00 AM

    It seems sort of fitting that the Western Conference le in the WNBA is coming down to a two-team race between San Antonio and Phoenix.

    The Silver Stars and the Mercury meet tonight in the Alamo City, and we can only hope that it's a preview of a playoff matchup.


    We don't have to tell you the two cities are beginning to form what could be a lasting rivalry.

    The Suns and Spurs have met in the playoffs eight times, with the Spurs winning five series, including the past three.

    But the Western Conference semifinals this year have taken it to a new level.

    Many Suns fans will believe forever that a potential championship was snatched in some sort of a conspiracy, or at least because of a dirty referee.

    Many Spurs fans think Suns followers sound an awful lot like Sergio Garcia - blubbering something about bad breaks and having to defeat unseen demon forces on top of the compe ion.

    It's all great stuff for Internet message boards.

    Actually, we really like San Antonio. It has a lot of history.

    Did you know that Native Americans who originally lived in the area called it Yanaguana, which roughly translated means, "Whew, do you smell that?"

    Or maybe it's "refreshing waters." Scholars are equally split.

    Anyway, now we have a WNBA version of the rivalry emerging.

    And it's bound to get more intense what with two Sun Belt cities battling for supremacy.

    Of course, we're winning.

    Sporting News just released its annual rankings of the best sports cities, and Phoenix rated eighth.

    San Antonio came in a distant 31st, mainly because we have four major sports and they have one.

    Here's how the rivalry stacks up:


    Major sports teams
    Valley: Suns, Diamondbacks, Coyotes, Cardinals.

    SA: Spurs.


    Other stuff
    Valley: We have spring training, the WNBA, National Lacrosse League, Arena Football and Pac-10 sports.

    SA: WNBA, minor league hockey (the Rampage is a top minor league affiliate of the Coyotes) and Double-A baseball.

    Notre Dame will play a game there in 2009 as part of a new "off-site" program.


    Domes
    Valley: University of Phoenix Stadium is what they call "state of the art." We also have Chase Field. Both are convertibles.

    SA: The Alamodome's a hardtop, but it has UO-Pee outnumbered 88-77 in bathrooms.


    Attractions
    Valley: The weather. The Arizona Science Center. The Heard Museum. Castles and Coasters. Did we mention the weather?

    SA: River Walk, Sea World, the Alamo.


    Big events
    Valley: Two Super Bowls (assuming we pull off the one in February). Four national-championship football games hosted by the Fiesta Bowl. An NBA All-Star Game and two NBA Finals.

    SA: Twice the Alamodome has played host to the Final Four and will again in 2008. The Women's Final Four was there in 2002 and returns in 2010.

    The city also has had an NBA All-Star Game and four NBA Finals.


    Heat
    Valley: Dry.

    SA: A swamp thing.


    Mexican food
    Valley: It's great everywhere, but we favor the Tee Pee because of the chile rellenos.

    SA: OK, we happen to love Mi Tierra Café in San Antonio's Market Square district. It's open 24 hours a day and worth the trip at any time.

    But, c'mon, what's up with the tortillas down there in Texas? The pancakes at IHOP are thinner.


    Speaking of thinner
    Valley: Phoenix isn't on Men's Health magazine's 2007 list of "America's 10 Fattest Cities," although those porkers in suburban Mesa made the list at No. 4.

    SA: Yep, they're on the list at No. 2, right behind the buffet capital of the world, Las (buuuup) Vegas.


    Celebrity couples
    Valley: Let's see . . . Bickley and MJ?

    SA: Tony and Eva.

    That one's a walkover.


    Championships
    Valley: Well, let's see. There's the 2001 World Series.

    SA: Uh, four NBA championships.

    So there's that.


    Not so fast
    Arizona State basketball coach Herb Sendek was close to Skip Prosser, the Wake Forest hoops coach who died last week.

    He told USA Today: “Skip didn't coach to wear Armani suits or to appear on SportsCenter. He coached because he loved people and liked to teach.

    “He was a coach's coach. He got into it for the right reasons and never lost his bearings.”

    He also noted that, “You don't have a name like Skip unless you're a friend to everybody.”

    Sendek evidently hasn't heard of Skip Bayless.

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    How......can it be a shootout if SA vs Phx losers of past playoffs keep loading their pistolas with blanks......................

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    The Arizona weather is overrated. It's too frickin' hot to breath there during the summer. SA has its humidity. I'd say that one's a wash. Slight edge to Phoenix perhaps, but not by much.

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    A "rivalry" implies both teams have won. Right now Phoenix is still working on "jealousy" and "envy". Try re-running that column once the Suns actually win a series against the Spurs.


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    Suns are more preoccupied with the Spurs than the Spurs have ever been with the Suns. That should continue as long as Duncan and Pop are here.

    A one-way rivalry is a crappy rivalry.

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    spurs 4 rings > suns who?

    gtfo

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    Six guns? More like a pop gun (Suns) facing off against a howitzer (Spurs).

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    The Spurs are the Suns' nemesis, but it doesn't work both ways. The Suns are not a legitimate rival to the Spurs, any more than the Bucks or Hawks were legitimate rivals to the Celtics in the 1980's. The more applicable term is "also-ran."

    Plus Phoenicians are whiny, gutless pussies not worthy of the respect that a rivalry would connote.

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    88 bathrooms. Now that's pimp.

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    It always struck me as odd that they would call it a rivalry, after all, rivalry implies there are two sides to the conflict. The simple truth here is, Spurs always beat the Suns, and the Suns a bitter pussies, plain and simple.

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    A WNBA regular season matchup as a proxy to run weak NBA smack?

    Go Silver Stars!!

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    But, c'mon, what's up with the tortillas down there in Texas? The pancakes at IHOP are thinner.
    They like weak, thin tortillas?

    Figures.

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    I've been to Phoenix twice and their "mexican" food tasted like .

    I mainly stay on the NorthSide of S.A. but the best mexican food I have ever had is in Rockport, Texas.

    AZ has some badass wild west history and it is a shame their fans are a bunch of cry babies.

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    I've been to Phoenix twice and their "mexican" food tasted like .

    I mainly stay on the NorthSide of S.A. but the best mexican food I have ever had is in Rockport, Texas.

    AZ has some badass wild west history and it is a shame their fans are a bunch of cry babies.
    I'm guessing Arizona doesn't specialize in Tex-Mex. What is it there, like a Cali-NM hybrid?

    Somehow I'm thinking chilies and cabbage wouldn't go together so well,

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    The Arizona weather is overrated. It's too frickin' hot to breath there during the summer. SA has its humidity. I'd say that one's a wash. Slight edge to Phoenix perhaps, but not by much.
    There aren't many days in SA where you absolutely are in danger from heatstroke due to dehydration when you go outside.

    I'll take a few muggy days against living in an oven.

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    AZ weather is pretty cool. No humidity, 115* daytime temps, 40* nighttime when we were there.

    They have a monsoon season lol.

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    The Arizona weather is overrated. It's too frickin' hot to breath there during the summer. SA has its humidity. I'd say that one's a wash. Slight edge to Phoenix perhaps, but not by much.
    You ever see that news video of Phoenix being engulfed by a massive sandstorm? I hear it happens all the time.

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    SA's weather kicks Phoenix's a$$ any day. Not only does Phoenix have the insane temps, it is located in a basin with no trees, no shade, just concrete and asphalt.

    On a completely different note, it's ridiculous that San Antonio doesn't have D-I college football.

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    You ever see that news video of Phoenix being engulfed by a massive sandstorm? I hear it happens all the time.
    If by "all the time" you mean once every year or so, then yeah... ALL THE TIME!

    As for the article, no real news going on right now. Just Cardinal propoganda, Diamondbacks articles and not much else. I agree with everyone who said this isn't a rivalry yet. It's not. It's heated, and the Suns hate the Spurs, but they'll have to win a series before a rivalry is created.

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    No mention of the horrible pollution as well in Phoenix

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    And, oh yeah, the obsession continues....

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    If by "all the time" you mean once every year or so, then yeah... ALL THE TIME!

    As for the article, no real news going on right now. Just Cardinal propoganda, Diamondbacks articles and not much else. I agree with everyone who said this isn't a rivalry yet. It's not. It's heated, and the Suns hate the Spurs, but they'll have to win a series before a rivalry is created.
    The Red Sox weren't the Yankees' rivals until 2004?

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    I'm sure they'd won a series or two, just never the World Series.

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    The Red Sox weren't the Yankees' rivals until 2004?

    Even though they hadn't won the series since like 1918 they had several league Pennants, with some being at the expense of the Yankees....

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    And, oh yeah, the obsession continues....

    Yeah... by Suns Nation .... good point.

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