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    Forum Official Personal Life Coach BacktoBasics's Avatar
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    How much longer do we have to endure these guys. We've had some bad booths before but this takes the cake. Un-insightful, boring and borderlining on the absurd. This guys bring next to nothing objective about football itself.

    I miss the old SNF guys, in my opinion that was one of the better booths in pro football.

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    I like ESPN's crew personally

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    I hate Tony on MNF, or as a football analyst at all. He brings nothing to the table.

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    How much longer do we have to endure these guys. We've had some bad booths before but this takes the cake. Un-insightful, boring and borderlining on the absurd. This guys bring next to nothing objective about football itself.

    I miss the old SNF guys, in my opinion that was one of the better booths in pro football.
    Who's your all time favorite's



    Gifford, Cosell, Meredith

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    Its hard to say who my favorites are. I liked SNF before it got all changed up. Maybe its Kornholer I don't know....I just can't stand the guy, he brings nothing to the table. The play by play is ok at best. The dialogue in general is just poor and unentertaining with little to no useful or thought provoking insight.

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    I really like Kornheiser on PTI, and it's one of my favorite shows.
    But, I really can't stand him on MNF.

    He tries to hard to be funny and he flatlines most of the time.

    I like Jaws because he can really break a play down, but he's often cut off by Tony and sometimes has to talk over him.

    I'd rather have Mike & Mike in the booth because their chemistry is natural and Golic would provide a concise break down of the action on the field.

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    Gifford, Cosell, Meredith
    #1

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    I cannot grok its fullnes leemajors's Avatar
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    i hated mcguire in the SNF booth. he was terrible.

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    I'd rather have Mike & Mike in the booth because their chemistry is natural and Golic would provide a concise break down of the action on the field.
    I never thought of that. Great idea, how do we make it happen?

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    I'd rather have Mike & Mike in the booth because their chemistry is natural and Golic would provide a concise break down of the action on the field.
    If they ever let Mike Greenberg near an NFL booth, I'll stop watching the NFL. I caught M&M calling an Arena League playoff game and Greenberg was flat-out clueless about what was happening on the field.

    I really like Jaworski -- he brings the substance that Thiesmann never could while being conversational as well. I'd agree that Kornheiser would be best left off the prime time crew; ESPN should give up on the notion that it could create another Howard Cosell.

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    If they ever let Mike Greenberg near an NFL booth, I'll stop watching the NFL. I caught M&M calling an Arena League playoff game and Greenberg was flat-out clueless about what was happening on the field.

    I really like Jaworski -- he brings the substance that Thiesmann never could while being conversational as well. I'd agree that Kornheiser would be best left off the prime time crew; ESPN should give up on the notion that it could create another Howard Cosell.
    M&M plus Jaws. That's how you would fix the Greenberg problem. He wasn't all that bad, but he needs to be a little more versed in the game.

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    I never thought of that. Great idea, how do we make it happen?
    I say we flood ESPN with emails demanding M&M on MNF.

    We need to set this im motion!!!

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    Give me a email address and I'll commence the spamming.

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    Give me a email address and I'll commence the spamming.
    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/...contact/espntv

    That link there should get you started.

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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    I'd rather have Mike & Mike in the booth because their chemistry is natural and Golic would provide a concise break down of the action on the field.
    They called ESPN's Arena League games...not half bad.

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    I'm on it but its highly likely that they just delete any and every email.

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    If they ever let Mike Greenberg near an NFL booth, I'll stop watching the NFL. I caught M&M calling an Arena League playoff game and Greenberg was flat-out clueless about what was happening on the field.

    I really like Jaworski -- he brings the substance that Thiesmann never could while being conversational as well. I'd agree that Kornheiser would be best left off the prime time crew; ESPN should give up on the notion that it could create another Howard Cosell.
    Agreed 100% on each point. Greenberg doesn't really know much about anything. He knows straight up trivia but is horrible at applying it. He's perfect for radio because he can just blab continuously without the need for any substance at all. Golic knows football but he's nothing special as a commentator.

    My favorite crew in all of football currently is Marv Albert and Boomer Esiason. They currently do MNF radio and they are fantastic. I like Al Michaels, although he's kinda turning into Bob Costas (who I despise) in that he over dramatizes games. Plus, Michaels hasn't had that good of chemistry with any crew since Frank Gifford and Dan Dierdorf were let go.

    My favorite crew of all-time has to be the early years of John Madden and Pat Summerall ... back before Madden turned into a caricature of himself and Summerall's alcoholism caught up to him.

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    Jaws is great. He actually gives INSIGHT into the game, which is a rare thing nowadays.

    As much as everybody loves Madden - if you have just a basic knowledge of football, when is the last time he told you something that you didn't already know just by watching the play???????

    I never played in the NFL (or college for that matter), and my mind is capable of giving the same analysis that any of these guys give. They water down their broadcasts to play to the absolute dumbest most ignorant person watching.

    Kornheiser is predictably awful. Plus, he seems to be taking offense when Jaws corrects some of his ridiculous statements. Reminds me a bit of Cosell.

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    My favorite crew of all-time has to be the early years of John Madden and Pat Summerall ... back before Madden turned into a caricature of himself and Summerall's alcoholism caught up to him.

    My favorite is Fox's second tier guys in Moose, Goose, and Stockton.

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    As much as everybody loves Madden - if you have just a basic knowledge of football, when is the last time he told you something that you didn't already know just by watching the play???????
    Every once in a while, Madden will step out of his schtick and actually provide some sort of coaching insight. I wish I could think of a great example right now. I'm pretty well versed in the nuances of defensive fronts and coverages, but there have been a couple of games in the last year or so where I caught myself saying "I never knew that," and learned something substantive by listening to Madden. Unfortunately, those moments are quickly dashed by his return to the gutteral sounds and drawing all over the telestrator.

    I never played in the NFL (or college for that matter), and my mind is capable of giving the same analysis that any of these guys give. They water down their broadcasts to play to the absolute dumbest most ignorant person watching.
    I agree completely with that.

    Kornheiser is predictably awful. Plus, he seems to be taking offense when Jaws corrects some of his ridiculous statements. Reminds me a bit of Cosell.
    Yeah, I think Kornheiser has tried to hard to be like Howard Cosell and he's not very good at it.

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    If you're fortunate enough to live in a city with ESPN Radio (or have satellite radio in your house) the best thing to do is mute the TV and put your entertainment system on ESPN radio. I do it for every MNF game I watch, and also for most Cowboy games unless Moose Johnston is covering the game. The current MNF is horrible, Kornheiser needs to keep to creating radio fodder and Jaws is halfway decent but he lets his big time Eagles bias seep into his commentary and analysis far too often. Plus, he just looks like an asshole.

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    I really like Aikman and Buck a lot, I think they really got good chemistry

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    Could be worse


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    Yeah, I think Kornheiser has tried to hard to be like Howard Cosell and he's not very good at it.
    Yeah, Cosell used to get noticeably upset whenever Meredith would correct one of his remarks. But like him or not - Howard was Howard. Kornheiser is not.

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    My favorite all time crew was Michaels, Gifford and Dierdorf.

    I can't stand either Boomer or Tony Kornhiser.

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