this is a question that I make to myself all the time.
I really donīt think we have a better roster tham the Mavs,eventhough I know that Tony, Timmy, Manu and Bruce can make the diference.
with not much upgrades as long as the teamīs bigs for next season,and not a really good backup low post scorer for Timmy(we leted Scola walk away for peanuts)and no upgrades at the Bakup PG poss eather........................
Can we beat the Mavs in a 7 games series?
I believe it is still a toss up.
Both teams are still talented enough to be each other in a seven game series.
However, the chances have brighten for the Spurs slightly because they have acquired Udoka.
Now, Bowen can focus on Dirk.
Finally, someone can be physical and give Howard fits when Udoka guards him. I believe that helps us a lot because Howard would slash down the lane with ease or would sink jumpers. Now, we can at least contest him in a legitimate way.
Spurs in 7.
Rockets first round.....Spurs win.
Suns second round....Spurs win.
Mavs third round......Spurs win.
Finals.....................Spurs win.
And we still will get an *.
I still think that it would be very close. Let me ask this, What would the Spurs starting line-up be?
Parker
Manu
Bowen
Duncan
Oberto
or if Udoka is expected to play Howard
Parker
Manu
Udoka
Bowen
Duncan
This would leave Duncan as the only big ....
It all depends on what the Spurs can expect from Udoka, and it that is more important then having a C on the floor.
Dalhoop, thats definitely a good point. We don't know what Udoka will be able to give us so its hard to say at this point what to expect.
Whats interesting is that we were all waiting for the Dallas/SA matchup last year and since Dallas neglected to show up it never happened. But since the Spurs haven't changed their roster signifcantly (save Udoka) and the Mavs have yet to change anything but peripheral players we might get that matchup this season.
The differences this season on the Spurs side?
- What will Udoka bring?
- How much more comfortable will Jacque Vaughn, Matt Bonner, Francisco Elson and Fabricio Oberto be in our system?
- If Beno is replaced, what will his replacement bring?
Spurs in 5. I hate the damn Mavs.
Can the Spurs beat the Mavs.with the current roster?
NO !!!!
If we play with two big men for most of the series, we will win. That is why we did not win in 2006. I'm not saying Nazr or Rasho were defensive monsters, but Rasho could block shots and Nazr could rebound. Sometimes just having a body in there can make a difference. I think we would win especially if Oberto contributed like he did in last year's playoffs.
Also, 2006 was just an off year in the playoffs for us-nothing went our way, we didn't get any breaks, etc. Hopefully it won't be like that this year and we can get some breaks against the Mavs (if we even meet them in the playoffs) that we didn't two years ago.
Unlike Rasho and Nazr, Oberto, Horry, and Elson could actually be out on the floor vs Dallas and keep Dirk and Howard off the boards. Throw in Udoka and we wouldn have Berry and Finley playing extended minutes vs Stack and Howard.
Stop it es..
No, the Spurs Can NOT beat the Mavs with the current roster..
Don't blame it on small ball, blame it on INEP UD!!!
You are an idiot that the only rebuttal you have is those little smilies...
asswipe!
Well considering at the end of Game 7 in 2006, the game was tied and there was a no-foul call that would have sent Duncan to shoot two free throws at the end of regulation, yes, we can beat the Mavs in a 7 game series.
There was also a no-foul call at the end of the 2nd regular season matchup of the 06-07 season in which Finley would have shot three free throws which could have tied the game at the end of regulation.
There's also the Spurs winning 90% of the last regular season game before Duncan got tossed for nothing.
So, yes.
If you don't think an All-NBA First team player (Tim), a All-NBA Defensive First team player (Bruce, as well as runner-up for DPOY the last couple of years), the NBA Finals MVP (Tony Parker), a player who provides energy off the bench (Manu), a seven-time NBA champion who makes the biggest clutch shots (Horry) is a better roster than Dallas....are you blind?
Dallas has: Regular season MVP: Dirk.
Nothing else on their resume. Nothing impressive about any other of their players or accomplishments. No championships.
Dallas is a one hit wonder (winning the Spurs series in '06). Seriously, what have they done since then? Anything less than a championship is a failure.
What did you blame for the Cavs not able to get a single win in the biggest series of their existence?
Seriously, from a guy that believed Boobie was going to be THE difference maker to get the Cavs a le, what do you know about what it wil take to win a Spurs/Mavs series?
Your interplanetary ruler Jeff has spoken. Bow down and denounce all others before him Mavfan.
I think a big difference between today and the 2006 playoffs is that the Spurs roster is far more versatile now than it was then. In 2006, Avery exploited the Spurs defensive dependence on the slow-footed bigs by going small and forcing Pop to play groups that hadn't spent any time together on the floor. At that, Pop nearly got over; regardless, Pop learned his lesson. He learned to spend more time during the regular season using games to develop lineups in anticipation of things that might happen during a playoff series. In 2006-07, Pop spent much more time developing those smallball groups. More importantly, though, he tinkered again with the roster to come up with a more dynamic group than he had in 2006.
Instead of lumbering centers who could do little if they were more than 5 feet from the hoop, the Spurs have 2 mobile bigs who can play the physical game down on the block and who can get out on the floor and play some defense.
They don't have the mythical Dirk stopper, but they have also made it easier for the roster to stay small if the game dictates a move in that direction. With Bowen and Udoka, Pop (conceivably) doesn't have to play the either-or game with Bowen as between Howard and Nowitzki -- and he still doesn't have to expose Tim to the problems of guarding Dirk until late in games.
Say what you will about Vaughn, but he's proven to be a decided upgrade over Van Exel. In that narrow series in 2006, one could make a reasonable argument that had the Spurs been able to play someone better than Van Exel for 10-12 minutes per game, the result might have been different. I thought before last season that Vaughn gave the Spurs that guy and nothing that I saw in 2007 changed my mind. Vaughn isn't a great back-up point guard. But he's good enough that he can play those 10-12 minutes, which are important because those minutes buy Tony Parker some extra time to rest and to have a little bit extra left in the tank come crunch time.
I can see the argument that the Spurs were 1-3 against Dallas in 2006-07 and that the record doesn't suggest that any of those changes made a difference. But I think some of the disparity in the regular season was the difference between a team that was playing for everything in that regular season and a team that was slowly building through most of that regular season. The Spurs lost two games at home in which they had the ball and a chance to take a lead with under 30 seconds remaining; they lost at Dallas having had chance-after-chance late in the game to hold a lead. 1-3 looks bad, but the games themselves would suggest that 1-3 was a bit misleading.
And through all of that, the 2007 Spurs were able to overcome whatever mental demons may have existed after the 2006 playoffs. It doesn't appear that the Mavericks have the same sort of mental toughness, though time might prove that view to be incorrect.
I do think this Spurs' roster can beat the current Mavs' roster.
Irony at its finest.
Oberto wouldn't necessary be the one to sit out in that lineup. Manu could very realistically come off the bench. Whether that means Finley will keep the starting spot or Udoka brings enough offense/the offense doesn't stagnate with two Bowen's on the floor remains to be seen.
Since when do resumes and accolades win anything?
Gee, I don't know.
Try June 2007?
And my point was who has the better roster.
That wasn't a resume that won. If you think that, you're significantly diminishing the Spurs' accomplishment in winning that championship. What won for the Spurs was poise and execution, not a resume.
And my point was that you're a numbskull.
Absolutely. A lot of Mavs (and Spurs) fans forget that they got past us by less than a toasted pubic hair in 2006. They also followed that performance with two disasterous playoff series chokes, so yeah, they're beatable.
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