Yeah, they failed there too. Look at their last grand experiment in bringing democracy to the unwashed brown people (sic).
Enough is enough.
It is not getting better, in case you guys didn't notice.
If you want to nation build, use your inmense riches to help develop the third world.
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Yeah, they failed there too. Look at their last grand experiment in bringing democracy to the unwashed brown people (sic).
My problem with our beloved Operation Iraqi Freedom is that the US can't leave Iraq until stability and tangible results are achieved, or the radical element will claim victory, claiming more marginalized Muslims and whackjobs seeking a chance to be on what's perceived as the winning team half a world away from our DirecTV and drive thru Starbucks. Then there's more of these unhappy religious pricks sprouting out of the sand when US soldiers are doing their best to round them up and/or kill them.
Then when the US starts sending people back over there when they blow up their next objective in eight years or whatever, we get to endure all the fun that's dominated this decade...plus crazed jihadists using all the crap the US left there combined with whatever superior training we gave the ones that deserted the Iraqi Armed Forces.
I have no idea how the US will win the War on Terror, but I do know two things. The US can't leave now and Monday Morning QB a region that can't be un ed. And a lot more people around the world hate my country even after almost universal sympathy after 9/11 because of it.
Petraeus is now dubya's current fall guy/front man, taking the heat, along with Crocker.
dubya is accountable and responsible for nothing bad in Iraq. If Iraq works out, he takes credit. If Iraq continues to go to , dubya's out of the picture. The military will be responsible for failure.
dubya and head have only 16 months to "play" for time, and will not make any moves to withdraw the US from Iraq before 20 Jan 2009. They will let Iraq smolder as it is now, lose a couple 1000 more US lives, to try to save their ing reputations from the worst geo-political disaster in US history.
The Dems can't get their together to stop the war that an increasing majority of the US people want stopped. They don't have the balls for taking responsiblity for withdrawing, because they are intimidated by the inevitiable slime from the Repugs. In the USA, slime and lies always trumps honesty and courage.
The endgame, when dubya and head leave office, their lie will be that they were winning in Iraq and that Iraq was fully under US control, so that if the next Exec withdraws, dubya and head and the Repugs will claim total innocence and slime the next Exec for "losing Iraq".
dubya and head know they have totally ed up, Iraq is lost to their intended domination by the US for the benefit of the oilcos (the oilcos may be able to suck a few $Bs out of Kurdish Iraq where they are already setting up shop protected by mercenaries).
dubya and head will go to any extreme, tell any lie, to reject any and all accountability for their up in Iraq. Repug politicians, having rubber-stamped Iraq and every WH initiative, will also distance themselves from dubya and head and from Iraq.
I'm willing to be $100 that the above is exactly the way dubya and head will "play" out their term and afterwards.
So Petraeus is playing along with his boss's stalling game.
"need more time"
"no troop reduction other than that which must occur to give the troops some relief anyway"
In 2008, Washington will be pre-occupied with the presidential campaign, while dubya and dichkhead slip slide out of the WH like rapists in the night, walk away from their Iraqi hole, having failed to grab the oil.
Last edited by boutons_; 09-11-2007 at 09:12 AM.
Hey boutons Bush only ordered the invasion .. how dare you try and pin this on him..
boutons you show your ignorance and stupidity every
day. Bush has always accept responsibility for his
actions. He hasn't ducked anything. Nor has he
blamed anyone for what has gone on in Iraq.
Really?
Do he fire people because they're great or just because they said he was wrong?
Has Bush ever said he has made a mistake?
I don't know, "do he"?
gee john, i was using xrayspeak so he could understand.
as ray would say " be quite".
Normally I don't point out typo's, I just couldn't resist on that one.
MLKs dream was for iraqis too
He only admits mistakes to GHWB.
Zing!
I don't even think he does that.
I think Bush has said before that this war hasn't turned out the way he had planned and that he admitted to Iraq not having WMD's in the 1st place.
Sorry, but I can't provide a link, because I saw it on here somewhere and on the news and I have no interest in digging up and providing links for people I don't know, my time > your life. Thanks.
Problem is that money isn't the answer either. The poverty rate in America as gone virtually unchanged since before and after developing welfare programs.
We have a very good chance of making lasting positive changes in Iraq.
I placed boutons on IGNORE again after he posted something like 4 articles back to back. I cannot stand him, or that . I put 'ol humpy-chumpy on INGORE while I was at it too. He's such a master-baiter. It sure is nice not smelling their .
Well, since it seems all Argies are experts in U.S. foreign policy, why don't you tell us when it is going to end?
So let me get this right. We can't leave Iraq because it was a mistake to invade?
Before I forget, why are we still taxed to defend European nations with our military?
Don't forget Japan
Yeah, Bush gave Putin the ol' ocular soul check. It's all good.![]()
How about we prevent those who played Risk growing up from entering the White House?
Am I imagining things? Haven't the nations we stayed in without bailing out turned out OK?
Occupied German.
Occupied Japan.
Occupied South Korea.
Did they revert back?
Look what happened to S. Viet Nam when the democrats pulled the funding then. And we were winning! Damn traitors!
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