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    Ghost of Mr. K SenorSpur's Avatar
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    Lost in all the offseason whining about Robert Horry, Tim Donahgy and other league conspiracy theories that have seemingly kept the Suns from winning the NBA championship, the one overlooked aspect that has likely contributed to their shortcoming is team chemistry - or the lack thereof.

    It seems that Shawn Marion is again at the center of it.

    Here's an article that explains it in more detail.

    http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...red_of_marion/

    Are The Suns Growing Tired Of Marion?
    September 13, 2007 - 11:06 am
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    The Suns aren’t thrilled with Shawn Marion, the businessman, and that’s why the Marion for Andrei Kirilenko trade rumor can’t be summarily dismissed.

    The Suns don’t want to trade Marion. They know their best chance to win a championship this season is to keep the Marion-Steve Nash-Amaré Stoudemire triumvirate together.

    But Marion’s constant whining about being third in the pecking order is wearing on the Suns. They’re tired of hearing how he’s not respected when he’ll make the most money on the team this season ($16.4 million), he led Phoenix in minutes played last year and took 100 more shots than Nash and 16 more than Stoudemire.

    Not to mention the three straight All-Star appearances, the invitation to play for the Olympic team, the Nike Air Force 25 commercial in which he gets equal billing with Kobe Bryant and LeBron James, and the cover of ESPN The Magazine.

    We should all be so disrespected.

    It’s been suggested that the Suns want to trade Marion because they think he’ll opt out of his contract after this season and become a free agent, leaving them empty-handed. Actually, Phoenix isn’t worried about that at all. As good as Marion is, no team is going to give him a contract that starts at $17.8 million (his salary for the 2007-08 season). That kind of money is reserved for superstars. And for all of Marion’s talents, he’s a complementary player, not someone who can lead a team.

    But there is concern among the Suns coaching staff and front office that Marion’s grousing will become even louder if Grant Hill gets some of his shots and publicity.

    Already, Marion’s jealousy of Stoudemire threatens the chemistry in the locker room. A Slam magazine reporter recently asked Marion if he was watching Stoudemire in the FIBA Americas tournament in Las Vegas. “Nope,” Marion said. Then he sat there, silent, until the next question was asked.


    Memo to Suns fans: Denial is not just a river in Egypt. It's been proven over time. It's very difficult to achieve team success when the components are not "on the same page." If I were a Suns fan, I wouldn't take these chemistry issues lightly.

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    Silence surpasses speech. duncan228's Avatar
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    Obsession upon obsession. Already posted in another forum. Say what you want, but the series was fixed.

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    Get Refuel! FromWayDowntown's Avatar
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    Say what you want, but the series was fixed.
    Say what you want, but the series ended with the Spurs owning 2 more wins than the Suns.

    Oh yeah -- I nearly forgot that the season ended with the Spurs owning 4 more les than the Suns.

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    Obsession upon obsession. Already posted in another forum. Say what you want, but the series was fixed.

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    Refusal to accept reality, the biggest reason the Suns will only go so far...

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    Obsession upon obsession. Already posted in another forum. Say what you want, but the series was fixed.

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    This isn't the NFL, still takes 4 to win.

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    The suns chances dies the moment they got rid of Kurt Thomas. They have no chance unless Duncan gets hurt.

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    Obsession upon obsession. Already posted in another forum. Say what you want, but the series was fixed.

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    Lame troll is laaaaaaaaaaaaaaame.

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    Next scheduled Suns thread started by an obsessed Spur fan: Tuesday, 9/18/07 at 1600 hours.

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    Believe. Shred's Avatar
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    The suns chances dies the moment they got rid of Kurt Thomas. They have no chance unless Duncan gets hurt.
    Uh, gee, ya think?

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    Next scheduled visit to spurboard by obsessed sunfan: oh, you're early.

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    Obsession upon obsession. Already posted in another forum. Say what you want, but the series was fixed.

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    No. The series was lost because a few impulsive and stupid players on your team couldn't follow simple rules. This is a fact.

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    Obsession upon obsession.
    Um...pot, meet kettle. You're a Suns fan who spends practically 24 hours a day here just waiting to pounce on anyone who even farts in the direction of Phoenix.

    Glass houses.

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    Obsession upon obsession. Already posted in another forum. Say what you want, but the series was fixed.

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    SCOREBOARD you whiny little vagina.

    ...by the way, it's your Dad (if your Mom even knows who he is) that should have been "fixed".

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    Obsession upon obsession. Already posted in another forum. Say what you want, but the series was fixed.

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    Sour grapes, Suns fan.

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    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
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    The suns chances dies the moment they got rid of Kurt Thomas. They have no chance unless Duncan gets hurt.
    What's the diff ?

    Duncan schooled Thomas

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    Reason #2434343 Spurs>Suns

    because the Spurs are TOO GOOD for a whiney little like Marion.

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    Bo Knows Spurs remingtonbo2001's Avatar
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    Um...pot, meet kettle. You're a Suns fan who spends practically 24 hours a day here just waiting to pounce on anyone who even farts in the direction of Phoenix.

    Glass houses.

    It's funny cause it's true

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    Look's like the Phoenix S0ns are imploding a year earlier than I thought. These gimmick teams never do last long(80s Nuggets, Kings,etc).

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    I remember the Suns glory years when Westphall called that time out they didn't have so that they could get the ball back after the Tech FTs. Then Gar Heard hit that rainbow shot at the buzzer. That wasn't so long ago was it? It's something to hold on to, right?

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    The Suns best chance to win a championship is if they get a new coach. D'Antoni plays his stars too many minutes and too hard. By the time the playoffs come they have peaked. Even if the Suns beat the Spurs last year, I'm not sure they would have won against Utah. The Jazz gave them problems last year in the regular season. I don't think Nash has the endurance to win 16 games in the playoffs, especially since his coach plays him too much.

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    I own Allanon mavs>spurs2's Avatar
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    Sun fan still won't give it up?

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    Is it true Marion's the highest paid Sun? There's a chemistry destroyer right there. Look up "playoff non-en y," and you'll find a picture of Marion's ugly mug.

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    Obsession upon obsession. Already posted in another forum. Say what you want, but the series was fixed.
    Dance monkey, dance.

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    Believe.
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    The Suns best chance to win a championship is if they get a new coach. D'Antoni plays his stars too many minutes and too hard. By the time the playoffs come they have peaked. Even if the Suns beat the Spurs last year, I'm not sure they would have won against Utah. The Jazz gave them problems last year in the regular season. I don't think Nash has the endurance to win 16 games in the playoffs, especially since his coach plays him too much.
    100% correct

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