Gen. Pace: sexual acts immoral
By ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press Writer 5 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, caused a stir at a Senate hearing Wednesday when he said he believes sexual activity is immoral and should not be condoned by the military.Yahoooooooooooo
Pace, who retires next week, said he was seeking to clarify similar remarks he made in spring, which he said were misreported.
"Are there wonderful Americans who happen to be sexual serving in the military? Yes," he told the Senate Appropriations Committee during a hearing focused on the Pentagon's 2008 war spending request.
"We need to be very precise then, about what I said wearing my stars and being very conscious of it," he added. "And that is, very simply, that we should respect those who want to serve the nation but not through the law of the land, condone activity that, in my upbringing, is counter to God's law."
War for oil...good....
War while gay....bad...
Pace should be JCS for Iran. They have the same outlook and tolerance.
How can you claim to respect someone who serves, yet the minute that you find out...not that they had gay sex...but that they are gay in orientation, you toss them and their expensive training out of the military?
What about bisexuality? Would that be considered as bad?
To Republicans, if you smoke your gay....
...unless you only do the under-stall action.....that is....
Mm. More of a joking question than anything, but, eh. I have no plans to enlist, because I'm a pacifist by nature.
I wonder what quality, he feels, gays lack in order to serve their country at war? Does he think all gays are like Jack, from Will and Grace...
It's not just that. If gays are allowed to be open in the military, the rest of our soldiers will catch "The Gay", and will lose all their testosterone and will to fight!
You guys just don't know about the subject. It's not a simple one. First of all, in the military, you are FORCED to share accommodations. They are only divided male and female. The subject of gays openly serving the military simply cannot occur until we have a system where it is acceptable for male and female to share the same shower stalls at the same time as well, and other similar situations. There are so many complications. It's not that gays are thought of less, but for the same reason we separate male and female 'private' functions, most soldiers don't want to be subjected to sexual innuendos that are more than jokes, in the shower room.
Myself, if someone touched me with sexual intent in the showers... They would be seriously hurting and maybe dead! It is this type of cir stance the military is protecting people from.
That is why, if you are gay... Don't tell. You won't be asked, unless you sexually harass someone of the same sex!
What would happen to you if you made sexual innuendos or inappropriately touched a female soldier, WC?
Would it be in a shared shower room while we were both naked?
Why do you think that gays automatically want to have sex with you?
This issue is not complicated....
As a member of the military you are required to be "nuetral" on all things political, social, etc. But that doesn't mean ....
The core group of soldiers, airmen, sailors, and marines are conservative on social/political issues and generally have a Christian foundation. The idea of sexuality is fundamentally at odds with their thinking as it is considered a social dysfunction and morally reprehensible in the eyes of God.
Personally, I think the military would be better served in creating an open policy on sexuality and forcing the integration on the troops. The military was on the leading edge of desegregation, so I think it should catch up to the rest of the civilized world on this issue.
me thinks he duth protest too much
he's all man, I can tell.
You just make an assumption that sexuals are inclined to engage in openly-gay sexual innuendo in shared shower facilities? That's got to be among the most asinine stereotyped comments I've ever read.
That would be true whether the person touching you was sexual or not. What in the is "touching with sexual intent" anyway, and how often does that actually happen in shared shower facilities outside of penitentiaries? Besides, if any person touched another with sexual intent in a shared shower facility, the repercussions for the person provoking the encounter would sound in criminal and civil penalties; and that would be true whether the person provoking the encounter was gay or not.
You're forced to share accomodations at most colleges too. Do they disallow open sexuals in all-male dorm rooms? I don't think so....
And any unwanted advances, be they sexual or heterosexual, should be treated as cases of sexual harrassment.
I assume the comment about beating down a gay person for making advances on you was a way to illustrate how sexuals might be targeted....and in a roundabout way, you're right.
But, just because sexuals may be targeted for assault or ridecule, doesn't mean you should adjust your policy to IGNORE the issue. You should confront the issue and force reform.
i see you've taken his intelligence into consideration.
Why are you assuming as to what I assume?
It only takes a few incidents. I'm not saying every gay will act in such a way, in fact I know very few will. Much of it is that comfort level. For the same reason the military does not have co-ed showers and co-ed sleeping, the military does not allow open gays. Period!
Keep in mind, I was active Army for 11 years.
Sure, but it's hard enough to prove things in a "he said, she said" environment anyway. Open your mind and think of the possibilities that can occur. They will in small numbers. The military is not set up for all soldiers to have privacy.
If you allow gays in the military to serve openly, then you may as well combine the shower and sleeping environment between men and women. Otherwise, it is not eqaul anyway. It is just giving preferential treatment to the gays!
What about the voyeurs? How many of them salivate at seeing other naked men? How many people don't like being seen as a sexual object to someone they don’t like? I challenge anyone to make the argument that men and women should share the same open shower facilities at the same time, and why there would be no problems. If you want equality, you have to look at that angle too.
Women? You want to share a shower room with men you don't have an intimate relation with?
you are the dumbest asshole ever.
And you were looked at by several gay soldiers.Keep in mind, I was active Army for 11 years.
They saw you!
Cobra is just insecure about his sexuality. Men looking at him funny make him feel confused, angry and by his own admission violent.
Get the over yourself Cobra!
there's no way back into the closet pimpo. So you're gay! so what? be proud girl
Please tell me why my words make no sense to you. What is your solution in an environment where you only have male and female accommodations?
Name-calling instead of valid retort? I have been considering adding you to my IGNORE list. How about some substance rather than bile...
People who you, who assume things and state them as fact are the ones who have no credibility.
So... why do you do it?
Are you dumb, or just a slanderer?
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