Colby took his dismissal from the 2003 postseason at the hands of the Silver & Black quite hard, first raping a nubile hotel desk girl, then running out of town those most responsible for the recent Laker les, Shaq and Phil. Due to his decision to force himself upon previously referenced nubile hotel desk girl his career has careened towards OJ style humiliation and irrelevance. At least when the Lakers were winning there were enough mind numbed dolts (some who visit this forum) who would cheer him on.
King James has already replaced the Boy Wonder as the NBA's young stud. As the fortunes of the Cavs improve, Colby's star will continue to wane. East Coast players tend to get more notoriety anyways.
At the age of 26 Colby is done.
You're a re ....the numbers Kobe's putting up this year, if it was any other player, he'd be in serious MVP talks....Kobe's doing damage control...the media is all over him, any other player would fold like a cheap suit. It's pretty amazing what he's doing on the court given the cir stances, albeit self-produced or outside influence. King James is not even getting the defensive pressure Kobe see's everynight, double triple teams....
Actually if his team was winning, he would be.if it was any other player, he'd be in serious MVP talks
You don't get MVPs from teams 6.5 games behind in their division.
Some Laker fans have taken Colby's implosion rather hard. For example,
Don't even start you little monkey . Finish your GED, take down your Colby poster in your bedroom, and seek counseling.
He's controlling his own damage. The media is all over him because he's completely brought that on himself -- he's chosen to dispute things as to which there cannot be any real dispute. He's trying to revise history to support his own ends, ignoring the truths that have already been made known. In that process, he's making himself look foolish, while at the same time confirming Phil Jackson's assessment that Kobe is a foremost narcissist. It's all about Kobe -- it's always been all about Kobe, and it will always be all about Kobe.
Listening to Kobe last night reminded me a bit of the Monty Python scene with the Black Knight who continually denies the facts that are known to others, as if his denial will change those facts.
You seriously are a complete tool....seriously. I guess when you read the tabloids and get your information from media pundits wanting to sell print you would have the opinion you do. Do you actually have your own thought or are you just re-hashing the same old drivel everyone else is saying. Come up with stronger material than that...you look pretty weak, especially with your tired banter concerning my person. Oh, I don't see an implosion, Kobe's the most infamous NBA player out there, everything he does will be scrutinized and filtered through laker hating glasses. It's too bad that you people don't have original ideas, just carbon-copy ideologies.
Awww, is you mad?
Kobe's the most infamous NBA player out there
You seem to get it, yet you don't. Poor bastid.
Yes I meant infamous....I do get it...I don't know Kobe, but what I do know is that his b-ball skill is first and foremost in my periphery and not this BS about Karl, Phil and Shaq.
Slava:
It's fairly simple. Kobe is an increadibly gifted athlete. But he has his issues, as a b-ball player and as a human being.
And the reason most of the non-Laker fans don't like him has to do not with his game but with his selfish and sometimes childlish personality.
Sure, he's one of the top 3 players in the NBA and yet, he is played out. Nobody cares for the hotel girl raping drama queen anymore. The basketball world wishes he would just go away, not because he is that good but because he is an embarrassment.
Alright! A war! Some fresh entertainment; keep it running guys! My money's on Marcus, though.
When you say that Lebron isn't getting doubled or tripled, do you mean like in the games? Because uhh... heh you're wrong.
Maybe the basketball world, but the damn news outlets...I do wish would all of this would slide and we can discuss the real issues. I'm played out....however Kobe isn't...It seems he's going on TNT to have an interview with Barkley. He's the hottest ticket right now, sorry to say. His basketball skills are being overshadowed by his personal issues. It's too bad, however when you fall as far his him in the public eye, what do you expect. Everyone wants him to fail, however his on-court numbers are pretty damn good. I have never seen this much interest over a B-ball player in my lifetime.
Agreed. Usually only "wrestlers" stage this kind of bull .I have never seen this much interest over a B-ball player in my lifetime.
ofcourse bad stuff sells
good things hardly make the news
I'm not sure I understand how the "other" issues aren't the "real issues," in this instance. Kobe's basketball skills have never been in doubt. The story with LA is that Kobe's putting up big numbers (which he's done for years) but on a mediocre basketball team (which is a new development). The story is LA's backslide. The figure at the center of the backslide is Kobe, and the issue is his ability to deal with his teammates, since there is quite a solid history to support the idea that Kobe has leveraged those guys and forced them out. Most people take from that the notion that Kobe wants to be on his own -- no star teammates. As his team struggles without another star (or stars) the "Kobe pushed them out story" continues to develop. Kobe's overblown ego and desire to make himself the center of attention is what Phil called him on last year and I think the media is right to question whether it is the cause of the Lakers' slip.
Kobe has fallen in the public eye because of his own wrongdoing -- the media is just reporting what he's done. Kobe is the only one to blame for the focus on his personal issues -- he's the one whose chosen this path. The media is reporting it, but they're only reporting it because Kobe has done it.I'm played out....however Kobe isn't...It seems he's going on TNT to have an interview with Barkley. He's the hottest ticket right now, sorry to say. His basketball skills are being overshadowed by his personal issues. It's too bad, however when you fall as far his him in the public eye, what do you expect.
I don't understand why some continue to see Kobe as some tragic figure -- he's made his own bed and he's having to live with what comes from that decision. His efforts to spin things in his favor doesn't really help his cause, because it's an absolute refusal to accept self-blame for any of these bad times. The world's not out to get Kobe, but the more he chooses to pretend like he's above the fray, the less likely it is that people will feel much sympathy for what he's going through.
That's exactly the problem with Kobe. He's being interviewed because of his personal issues, not because of his basketball skills. That will be his downfall.
If Kobe wants to do damage control he needs to shut the up. It's a pretty simple rule-the more you say the more likely it is that you'll give the media enough rope to hang you with. Sure the media's got it out for him but I doubt that anyone at ESPN or TNT has put a gun to his head to make him do these interviews. I know he feels a need to get his side of the story out there, but there's a huge difference between looking like you're trying to have your say and looking like you're desperate for attention. Perfect example, Karl Malone and he are at the center of all of this mess right now. Kobe's all over the tube, Malone's laying low. And from what I can tell all this situation is doing is making Kobe look like a drama queen while no one is really chastising Malone a great deal.
Its all his own fault.
Keep the pants up, and you wouldnt have had this problem Kobe.
I finally had enough of the punk when he gave the ultimatum to Jerry Buss on Phil Jackson
"Either he goes, or I go"
Individual honors aside, unless Kobe wins another ring, he will never come close to regaining the "grace" he once had. And since it doesn't look like the Lakers are going to be pressing for any more Finals appearances anytime soon, then that probably means that Kobe Bryant, the media-figure as we all knew him before last summer, is all washed up.
I don't see anyone interviewing TD because of his B-ball skills. The media needs smoke to keep the fire burning, and they are finding a lot in Kobe. I agree a lot is his problem and he's doing more interviews than anyone right now. Why keep quite when every "talking head" is bashing you. Don't tell me that the media is not biased against Kobe...whatever he does he's getting crucified for...
oh puhlease.
Biased, against HIM??!?!
This the same media that swooned over him after he played on the same day as a court hearing.
Classic BS.
It's all about Kobe -- it's always been all about Kobe, and it will always be all about Kobe.
Listening to Kobe last night reminded me a bit of the Monty Python scene with the Black Knight who continually denies the facts that are known to others, as if his denial will change those facts.Classic and inargueable thread! Bravo, Bravo!!!
MadDoc
Once again, it's a hole that Kobe has dug for himself. Even you have to admit that Kobe has done more than his fair share of boneheaded things over the past 2 years, and this only leaves the media salivating for more, waiting for the next big thing that they can blow up on SportsCenter.
I watched that interview of him last night and you're right; they GRILLED Kobe Brant. It was like he was on the HotSeat or something. They were asking him about his fued with Malone and what he thought really happened, asking why he hadn't apologized to Shaq, asking about how he felt about his "fall from grace". Nearly everything they said was a trap to just make him look bad. Not once did they bring up the great basketball he is playing or how he is trying to carry his team.
Until Kobe Bryant starts doing more to make headlines ON the court rather than off them, the media is going to continue to keep the spotlight on him. And he keeps throwing fuel on the fire, so it's really hard to sympathize for him at this point.
AND the difference between TD and KB is thus: When people mention TD, they still casually mention how he is one of the greatest basketball players in the League. When they mention Kobe Bryant, it becomes a media frenzy. You tell me which you would rather have.
Last edited by Dex; 12-16-2004 at 02:02 PM.
If you have read any of my posts...I would rather have none of this BS and just talk about B-ball. The problem is two fold, you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. That's the entire issue. If he shut's up, then he's aloof and distant...if he speaks his mind, then he's arrogant and self-promoting. He can't win.
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