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Dude seriously, let it go.
• Traded Luis Scola and Jackie Butler to the Rockets for Vassilis Spanoulis, a second-round pick and cash
The Spurs save several million dollars with this deal: the $2.4 million they would have paid Butler, the equal amount in luxury tax he would have cost, and the cash they get from the Rockets. Spanoulis, incidentally, was released from his contract so he could return to Europe and won't count on the cap.
The Spurs are still $1.2 million over the luxury tax threshold at the moment, but bribing somebody to take Udrih or Vaughn can correct that situation in one swoop. That wasn't possible before this trade.
The problem is that the deal gave Scola to the Rockets, who have a good chance of coming back to haunt San Antonio in the playoffs. Though he's widely considered the best player not in the NBA, the Spurs didn't have room for Scola in their frontcourt and this summer was their last shot to get something for him in a trade before the buyout on his European contract went through the roof.
So the Spurs made the best deal they could under the cir stances, given their limited potential trading partners. Remember, between the teams that had no room in their frontcourt, the ones that consider overseas basketball nothing more than a rumor, and the ones that had nothing to offer San Antonio in return, there weren't many teams to do business with.
But they're still going to regret this in June.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/train...rsPreview0708#
Dude seriously, let it go.
I've telling you guys we'll regret this trade... book it!!!
I didn't like the trade but it's time to move on.
At least until Scola plays a game.
They had room in the frontcourt.
They didn't want him.
Hollinger told me (repeatedly) that Jackie Butler was going to make a major difference in 2006-07:
http://www.nysun.com/article/42437?page_no=2
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/train...page=Spurs0607
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailyd...nioPreview0607
Just saying. . . .
(sorry for the bad formatting, too).
So much for the Hollinger jocking.
Hollinger's last year prediction on the Jackie Butler acquisition, along with his recent 2007 prediction of Houston taking a #1 seed in the West makes me think this guy is
Last edited by SenorSpur; 10-07-2007 at 11:14 AM.
Could we (you) please move on?
It's done. Over. Can't be changed.
Whether the Spurs regret it or not means nothing.
, the FO has to know more than we do.
Have some ing faith.
Well chances are...
Trophy stays in Texas at least.
Man..Spurs are awesome..and I love them. But I gotta say, the Scola trade makes absolutely no sense to me. Couldn't the front office have dumped salary some other way and gotten Scola on board?
If they actually wanted Scola, maybe.
What does Scola offer the Spurs that they can use? Cap room is more important than anything he could have done for them on the court.
Scola thread whoooo hoooo!!
Someday one of you guys will attempt to answer one of my questions. I'm still not sure why I should be all broken up that Scola's gone, nor do I understand how Scola is a marked improvement to the Rockets over Juwan Howard.
Maybe the original poster can tell us.
Howard got benched for Chuck Hayes. That alone tells you all you need to know.
We won't know anything until he suits up for us. However, I do know that we were extremely weak at the PF spot last year and it will be nice to have a guy who isn't a complete offensive liability at that spot, especially in a Rick Adelman offense.
email him that
spurs are playing in june they could care less about scola
Juwan gave you 10 and 6 for three years. How much better does Scola have to be in order to improve that position?
I would rather wait for Splitter next year than to sign Scola this year. Splitter will be better than Scola and he is MUCH younger.
Not much. Just goes to show you how weak we were at PF. I mean we had Chuck Hayes starting last year...Chuck Hayes.....
I am excited about the Scola addition, mainly because we are going to an Adelman coached team. However, I don't see what all the fuss is about. Some folks here make it seem like y'all gave us Karl Malone's little brother.
Yea, now yall don't have an offensive liability at PF, you have a defensive liability at PF..... great improvement since we all know offense wins championships... right Phoenix fans?
Don't yall think that if Scola was THAT good, we would have tried alittle harder to get him in a Spurs uniform? I mean come on.... people are acting like he's part of some new big 3 with TMac and Yao... and that that big 3 is somehow better than the one here and in Boston... it's crazy...
btw... Chuch Hayes became the starting PF last season cause he rebounds and works his ass off... like 15 boards per 48 or somethin like that
Not sure either but Juwan Howard was not JVG's favorite player. JVG had a doghouse too.
Hey Look, now we got us a Ginobili flopper too!!!
Reporter Zhang Minghao reports from Austin
The first time I saw Luis Scola was on the Media Day. He was rushed around everywhere by the staff photographers for photos with a face showing that he was totally at a loss. He was a big man at 2.06 Meter, but just tossed around and manipulated by much shorter photographers surrounding him, asked to make different kind of poses with a basketball on his hands and reluctantly putting on a smiling face showing his teeth.
I attempted to say o to him in Spanish which at least will make him feel warm and familiar. But it took Luis Scola by surprise and he was sort of dumbfounded by me. It took him almost 10 seconds to realize that I was greeting him in 2 words in his mother tongue. Then he mumbled apologetically: “Oh, sorry; I did not realize that you’re speaking Spanish to me!”
Perhaps just like what he told me, everything had been very dissimilar; it was a very noisy and hectic Media Day, very many items to be accomplished on a to-do list, and tons of reporters. So with all the not-so-familiar team mates around him, and listening to English, a language that he can speak but not so familiar and warm to him yet, this big guy, donned with the Rockets #4 jersey, looked a little hoodwinked on this first day.
So people started to forget those glittering bright MVP trophies that he had been awarded, and began to suspect and speculate that after all, the new Rockets #4 looked like a simple and silly big fellow.
Even though, maybe he was unfamiliar with the environment, the Argentine appeared to be a little bit dumb off the court, yet once he stepped on court with the basketball, every of his MVP stances and quality returned.
He is 2.06 meter tall; but he surely can run and shoot; and what is more awesome is that he is so nimble with excellent footwork down at the low post; his turnaround, his dribbling, and his layups are not worst than those quicker and more agile shorter players. Perhaps, in the current big men of the Houston Rockets, Luis Scola is the only one that is able to play like this.
It was not only that. Luis Scola also possesses the slyness and intelligence of European players in defense. Throughout the 3 day’s team scrimmages, he had repeatedly succeeded in drawing offensive charges from his team mates. With his eyes set on the in-rushing opponent, with his 2 hands crossed on the chest, once there was body contact with the offending player, Luis Scola would in one very smooth motion fell onto the ground, usually accompanied with a painful scream. Such scene happened repeatedly to both Kirk Snyder and Shane Battier: Luis Scola would bellow a loud cry and drop onto the ground once contact was initiated, and Kirk Snyder or Shane Battier just haplessly waved their hands to plead their innocence. Then (after an offensive charge given to the attacking player), Luis Scola would stand up, pat his own buttocks, and was totally unscratched.
So compared with his off court demeanors, Luis Scola while playing on court is definitely more cunning, and not dumb at all.
And right after each day’s training/team scrimmage, the other side of Luis Scola personality and disposition would manifest. He would find a quiet corner, sit down, sip his fruit juice and observe players around him. He was carefully looking on and studying without making the slightest sound how his team mates were cracking jokes and making fun of each another, and how they called each other with their nick names. On Day 1 of the training camp, Luis Scola did not speak a word. But on Day 2, he began to act like all his other team mates; he would run up to pat the buttocks of his team mates, and crack a joke or two with them; and before the players left the training ground, he would run up and greet each and every of his team mate, and it was only after he made sure that he had said goodbye to every of this team mate, then he would take out his mobile, check the short messages, and slowly stroll towards the team bus (to leave the training court).
So it is safe to estimate that by the time the team returns to Houston, that dull and dumb big fellow will vanish. The training camp only lasted 6 days, but Luis Scola just keeps changing everyday. No wonder Luis Scola is always so proud of being an Argentine. Surely in this big fellow, you can easily find the intelligence and wisdom of the Lain people.
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