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Who the stole Ghost handle?
Ghost, where are you?
Last game, it was nice to see both members of the Spurs' Euro-backcourt have equally impressive games.
Parker took it to a hot Claxton and Manu broke out of his mini-slump.
Good stuff.
That kind of combined effort is what the Spurs need to advance in the playoffs.
Who the stole Ghost handle?
Ghost, where are you?
I thought I had heard that Ghost was anti -spur????!!!?? Maybe some did steal his handle. Or perhaps it is a Christmas miracle. Does anyone know? =)
"Spurs need to advance in the playoffs"
yes, but...
A GS guy was quoted as saying "Cliff did a great job on Tim", and Tim did not get his usual double-double, with only 12 and 7. He played only 25 minutes.
While it's great that Tony and Manu both were big in the same game, but I still have the impression, lingering from the 04 playoff fiasco, that if you slow/stop Tim, you stop the Spurs. And the playoff teams know how to do that, certainly when they know their success depends on it.
In a horrible Spurs first half vs GSW, Tim had 6 PT, 3 (def) RB, 3 AST, 2 T0, 3 PF with 6 mins left in 2nd qtr. Result: Spurs up 4, @SBC, to a non-playoff team, even after Spurs had a 33 PT 2nd qtr.
That's the kind of half that makes Spurs look like a non-playoff team.
They have a lot of toughening up to do. I wonder if the Spurs practice "how to play with Tim neutralized" ?
Agreed....except for one thing. "the Spurs' Euro-backcourt" would be TP and Beno. Manu is from the underside of the equator.
I doubt they say it that way...I imagine pop saying something like "defense not making it smart to go through Tim", "Tim having an off offensive night," or "packing the post". Even so, I think the Spurs have learned better how to deal with that kind of situation; the only question is if at least 2 other spurs players are having good games, and if our D is decent.
When the Lakers reduced Tim's and Tony's effectiveness after game 2 of the playoffs, Manu did not step up his scoring. Devin did, but we really needed 2 guys scoring well.
We can win games where teams score over our scoring average, even if Tim scores under 20 pts, but in order for that to happen 2 of our other players need to score over or close to 20.
If our d is good, and Tim is not scoring well (uncommon, but not as rare as in past years I have noticed), then one other scorer stepping up is enough.
Name one team other than shaq/kobe lakers that knows how to stop Tim in the playoffs. Funny I cant think of one that has been able to pull that off other than lakers for the last 6 years.
KG, Rasheed Wallace, there's two
Manu played Euro. So he counts.
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"non-Americans? They're all the same, can't tell them apart."
"non-Americans? They're all the same, can't tell them apart."
Chinese people look like blacks, and Irish people look like Indians.
all the time!
^^^ Implied sarcasm...
Anyways Smeagol they meat Manu played Euro --- from when he played in Italy...
hegamboa, I know E20 meant that.^^^ Implied sarcasm...
Anyways Smeagol they meat Manu played Euro --- from when he played in Italy...
I can't believe people lump up together everybody who played in Europe and put a "Euro" tag beside their names. Moreso, people in this board, who know damn well Manu is from Argentina.
I guess overgeneralization is something people can help doing.
I'm certainly not one to lump Manu with the Euros..... I'm proud of Manu because he is the brightest star in a league with few Latinos.
Why do you think he is a great fit in San Antonio.... The many Hispanics here appreciate his cultural background.....
Misinformed statements like this are the ones that I don't understand... it is all about perception, not facts I guess.
Let me tell you something... Manu stepped up BIG time in the Lakers series, BIGGER than any other Spurs not name Duncan. This is how Manu stepped up after game 2:
game 3: 17 pts (leading scorer, played only 22 minutes being the 7th Spurs in minutes played!)
game 4: 21 pts (leading scorer, despite being the 5th Spurs in minutes played!)
game 5: 8 pts (4th scorer, being the 5th Spurs in minutes played)
game 6: 16 pts (2nd scorer, the only game that Pop trusted him with 35 minutes, being the 3rd Spurs in minutes played)
well said.Misinformed statements like this are the ones that I don't understand... it is all about perception, not facts I guess.
Let me tell you something... Manu stepped up BIG time in the Lakers series, BIGGER than any other Spurs not name Duncan. This is how Manu stepped up after game 2:
game 3: 17 pts (leading scorer, played only 22 minutes being the 7th Spurs in minutes played!)
game 4: 21 pts (leading scorer, despite being the 5th Spurs in minutes played!)
game 5: 8 pts (4th scorer, being the 5th Spurs in minutes played)
game 6: 16 pts (2nd scorer, the only game that Pop trusted him with 35 minutes, being the 3rd Spurs in minutes played)
Manu and Devin were the heart and soul of the Spurs in the Laker series.
well about Ginobili, i suppose if you were really going to stretch you could say he is an italian-american, but unless you contend spain isnt in europe you'll have to start considering all hispanics europeans
Just to spark a little argument, what in US is called an "hispanic" is related to Spain by the language and little else.
The stock of the "hispanic" cultures is more related to the indigenous peoples of America; the mayas, aztecs, querandies, quechuas, and so on.
In that light Manu is more italian that hispanic.
Manu is pure ARGENTINO!
Many of us Argentineans are italian-blooded.
Im 100% Arg.
but my whole mom's side of the family is Italian, what im tring to say is their a lot of Italians in Argentina.
Manu is not good enough to be European. Manu is a hot dog from Argentina. Do they sell hot dogs in Argentina?
Just wonderin.
Yes they do.
Panchos.
I admit that the stats you bring are better than I remember (losses do tend to lend a greater negative impression i guess), I still do not consider Manu to have "taken over", which is what is needed when the defense clamps down on 2 parts of your offense.
My contention is, Manu should have scored over 20 in those games considering how much defensive attention Parker and Duncan were getting.
This is how Manu stepped up after game 2:
game 3: 17 pts (leading scorer, played only 22 minutes being the 7th Spurs in minutes played!)
game 4: 21 pts (leading scorer, despite being the 5th Spurs in minutes played!)
game 5: 8 pts (4th scorer, being the 5th Spurs in minutes played)
game 6: 16 pts (2nd scorer, the only game that Pop trusted him with 35 minutes, being the 3rd Spurs in minutes played)
As I said, he had 3 good scoring games out of 4, but he needed to TAKE OVER in those games, considering the defensive attention that parker and duncan were drawing. Take what they give. He was good, very good, but not doing what, say Rich Hamilton was doing for his team (and many here rank Manu above him...)
Sequ is a funny gringo
"As I said, he had 3 good scoring games out of 4, but he needed to TAKE OVER in those games, considering the defensive attention that parker and duncan were drawing. Take what they give. He was good, very good, but not doing what, say Rich Hamilton was doing for his team (and many here rank Manu above him..."
^^^Totally agree. Those numbers are great, but despite perhaps Game 4, he didn't really have that powerful game, like he did in the Olympics. Considering a lot of the defensive attention was targeted at Tony and Tim, Manu could have done a lot better. I guess, what I'm thinking is, I don't think he was the difference maker in the series that I expected him to be. That honor went, surpisingly, to Deven Brown.
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